Saturday, Feb 7
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Youtube is valuable I agree, but you have to be careful of its nudging
Feb 6, 9:50 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
You are right of course
Feb 6, 9:50 AM
but the point remains if you are in charge it is useful
Feb 6, 9:51 AM
The important thing is the person and I would argue a spiritual humanism
Feb 6, 9:52 AM
that values human agency
Feb 6, 9:52 AM
I think all metaphysics is hubris
Feb 6, 9:53 AM
It is the first step which counts because there is no view from nowhere
Feb 6, 9:54 AM
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https://indy.peergos.me/Lab/peersuite.space
Feb 6, 9:55 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I do not have beliefs I choose them
Feb 6, 9:55 AM
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No the metaphysics of adjacency is all about appreciating unique cosmic situatedness
Feb 6, 9:56 AM
Yes it's your souls choice within a situation
Feb 6, 9:57 AM
https://indy.peergos.me/Lab/peersuite.space
Feb 6, 9:57 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
It just takes me to another room with only me there
Feb 6, 10:45 AM
When I re-click on the old link you are not there either
Feb 6, 10:45 AM
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sorry my machine is ceased up
Feb 6, 10:49 AM
will give you a new link in a minute
Feb 6, 10:49 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Oh ok
Feb 6, 10:49 AM
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sorry I fumbled. My laptop shutdown, no battery. Took me a long time to restart
Feb 6, 12:58 PM
https://bafybeihnx2av7bqvo4brlsc65lt2qc7nmj5mleg7fj6g7dwmurjeqm7hte.ipfs.dweb.link/peersuite/space/?p=/%E2%99%96/indy/0/peersuite/space/&r=onboard&n=CPG2
Feb 6, 12:59 PM
try to refresh the browser
Feb 6, 1:00 PM
It is not that I m right. It's a lot of experimentation and evolution, the one thing is fixed is the intent. Just because the technology underneath failed 3 years ago, it was good enough to validate much of the target.
Feb 6, 1:03 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Why can't I hear you?
Feb 6, 1:03 PM
I can hear you
Feb 6, 1:04 PM
I can't hear you now
Feb 6, 1:05 PM
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I can't hear you
Feb 6, 1:06 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Shall I re-enter?
Feb 6, 1:06 PM
I heard you for a few seconds
Feb 6, 1:06 PM
then silence
Feb 6, 1:06 PM
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refresh the browser yes
Feb 6, 1:06 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
ok
Feb 6, 1:07 PM
I can't hear anything
Feb 6, 1:08 PM
I heard you say hello
Feb 6, 1:09 PM
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add an extraletter to the url and press enter
Feb 6, 1:13 PM
This is why it needs teting to find all the edge cases
Feb 6, 1:14 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
any letter?
Feb 6, 1:14 PM
Dune was on the video by the way
Feb 6, 2:01 PM
It was the last entry
Feb 6, 2:01 PM
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Glad to hear
Feb 6, 2:13 PM
but it was not on the list you shared. I stand corrected. It was actually a nice list in itself, and of course I am an a half educated proletarian, and since JA was one, and Ady wrote De az igaz, hogy hit ma még a proletár, az új szívek birodalmában is talmi. But it is true that faith is scarce today, even in the realm of the proletarian, of new heartsso proletar means to me Young at Hearts, and in my hart Faith abounds, a good combination the word ploetart means by his words Youn in Hearts, although has a positive by upbringing. No classical education, I made the most of the teachers in my time. The one who taught us russian in primary school was a good teacher. My first teacher ws an Angel. And even the after class teacher who gave me a rough time, was a blessing as she spent half an hour every day reading stories,
Feb 6, 2:18 PM
https://hypothes.is/a/HwpSSrBuEeyX-tNeIs7MNw
Feb 6, 2:22 PM
This writing had tremendous influence on my selfüconsciousness
Feb 6, 2:23 PM
Ady
Feb 6, 2:23 PM
https://hyp.is/HwpSSrBuEeyX-tNeIs7MNw/epa.oszk.hu/00000/00022/00004/00088.htm
Feb 6, 2:23 PM
The link above would require you to sign up to hypothes.is. Highly recommended. as I have over 40 K annotations I formulate my best ideas on the margins, in the context that triggered it
Feb 6, 2:25 PM
I have two accounts one gyuri and one indyweb
Feb 6, 2:25 PM
If you ever wondr what I am engaged with you can use this https://hypothes.is/users/gyuri
Feb 6, 2:25 PM
https://hypothes.is/users/indyweb
Feb 6, 2:26 PM
I've got to go. Will be back later perhaps
Feb 6, 2:26 PM
As jerry says, I am always surprised, how come not everybody is doing this. So if //wikiNiser and Network thinking Tools use is limited 100 million at best, Annotation is used by a couple of 100k users. Although it is used in schools quite a bit
Feb 6, 2:27 PM
The slogan is make reading active and social. That one is a use of computers that are edifying
Feb 6, 2:28 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Absolutely
Feb 7, 9:02 AM
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I could ship a vertical viabl first slice with the sloganMake reading active and social. Archive the pages you annotate along with the annotations. combine that with all your written work that you can share with anyone to co-laborate with.
Feb 7, 12:27 PM
Create your own Personal WebArchive of all the pages you annotate. Connect and Co-laborate with others accessing these annotated archived pages
Feb 7, 12:39 PM
Thursday, Feb 12
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missed the call today with Gien. Scheduled one for 9 a.m. your time., tomorrow morning. Would you like to join in, You do not need to turn on your camera if you do not wish to,
Feb 12, 10:02 PM
I guess it may go on for 2 hours easily
Feb 12, 10:03 PM
you do not need to, just wanted to give you the option
Feb 12, 10:03 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
It is a good idea. Send me a link at 9.
Feb 12, 10:49 PM
Friday, Feb 13
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https://bafybeihnx2av7bqvo4brlsc65lt2qc7nmj5mleg7fj6g7dwmurjeqm7hte.ipfs.dweb.link/peersuite/space/?p=/%E2%99%96/indy/0/peersuite/space/&r=onboard&n=CPG
Feb 13, 9:16 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I am there but I cannot see or hear you
Feb 13, 9:59 AM
Saturday, Feb 14
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will give you a new link
Feb 13, 10:00 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
ok
Feb 13, 10:00 AM
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https://ipfs.indy0.net/ipfs/bafybeifu3lnnwvhyojoc7xk75m7cwkc4nu2q4uq5p7dx7faymecvitmrvi/?p=/%E2%99%96/indy/0/peersuite/space/&r=onboard&n=gyuri
Feb 13, 10:00 AM
https://ipfs.indy0.net/ipfs/bafybeifu3lnnwvhyojoc7xk75m7cwkc4nu2q4uq5p7dx7faymecvitmrvi/?p=/%E2%99%96/indy/0/peersuite/space/&r=onboard&n=CPG
Feb 13, 10:01 AM
use the second one
Feb 13, 10:01 AM
please
Feb 13, 10:01 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
ok
Feb 13, 10:01 AM
Thanks for understanding the significance of the breakthrough of me not having to write 20 lines per paragraph. Gien was bemused.
Feb 14, 11:15 AM
Tuesday, Feb 17
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADYdypHZb2A
Feb 17, 11:36 AM
describe the utterly indescribable, something that is truly infinite
Feb 17, 11:36 AM
The Dao that can be spone is not the eternal Dao
Feb 17, 11:36 AM
try to contain it, you fail
Feb 17, 11:37 AM
still an infantile language
Feb 17, 11:37 AM
how do uou describe an experience that is biger than thought
Feb 17, 11:37 AM
spoken metaphor myths mysticism
Feb 17, 11:38 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I think my education has been systematic exclusion with a view to promoting a narrative. In my Primary School (and at Church) there was a Christian narrative (which was exclusionary to the extent we were not taught other religions) but which sought through knowledge of the Bible to be open to the possibility of becoming better people. My education since then has had one purpose only, to promote Leftism (even in Primary School I remember a temporary teacher fresh from Teacher Training College full of Leftist dogma to a comical degree) but after that my education (with some exceptions such as the Scottish biology teacher I mentioned to you and a few others) the only narrative was Leftist. To me it was comic seeing the expression on Benjoe's face when I suggested going up the path to see the Church. It was a horror which was the result of years of Marxist propaganda. Of course I only suggested it to see Little John's Grave but that was not enough to overcome his horror. By the way that was never your reaction even though you have similar roots. That is to your credit. There was a whiff of getting on within the Party about Benjoe which could never be said about you! Anyway, all the discovery has had to be my own, which makes my dislike of the Left even stronger because I now know what they supressed. There are wonderful writings which I knew nothing about because of active suppression. The Left are pure evil in my view much as it is impolite to say so. I am not a person motivated by anger so they have always repelled me. I dislike them in proportion to I love those such as Glenice who simply do good.
Feb 17, 2:50 PM
Given this history I hope you understand why you presenting a Concept Suppression Complex as some sort of revelation that you are opening my eyes about is so annoying.
Feb 17, 2:57 PM
I watched the video. The claims made on the video are very familiar to me. If only because of you! As I keep saying it is not my religion. It is coherent and not evil and so I am happy to watch it through to the end, but I have my own experience pf life , and much of it does not ring true to me, even at the 64,000th repetition.
Feb 17, 3:51 PM
To each their own as they say.
Feb 17, 3:59 PM
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Wokeness, leftist ideology is much easier to recognize and fight then Concept Suppression Complex It is easier to see where it all goes wrong, it is much more insidious when key concepts that are prerequisites to human flourishing are simply not there for most to behold and think about.
Feb 17, 9:24 PM
All my life, instinctively I was on the lookout for those words
Feb 17, 9:25 PM
I learned a few from Elemér, like Látó Seer
Feb 17, 9:27 PM
https://mmi.elte.hu/szabadbolcseszet/mmi.elte.hu/szabadbolcseszet/index0cf7.html?option=com_tanelem&id_tanelem=438&tip=0
Feb 17, 9:27 PM
Here is the English translation https://bafybeidulo5hk37bcbzm7fnw3wpgx7xwjddvqdxwclcja2pxwp56juxbue.ipfs.dweb.link?filename=Liberal%20arts%20(2_17_2026%209%EF%BC%9A29%EF%BC%9A36%20PM).html
Feb 17, 9:32 PM
Unfortunately much is lost in the English Translation, for a start Linera Arts in Hungarian the imagery is Freedom Wisdom
Feb 17, 9:33 PM
That itself is in itself part of he concept suppression complex
Feb 17, 9:34 PM
The arts faulty in Hungarian is Faculty of Wisdom science
Feb 17, 9:34 PM
Scine is what i used to be Natural Science
Feb 17, 9:34 PM
Hungarian reflects a usage that is at least 200 years old. Scientia was not Natural Science and so on and so forth
Feb 17, 9:36 PM
That they managed to eclipse homigenize Bacon is far more insidious then Leftist Ideology can be. It is easier to counter at the level of concepts, of course the institutional take over is indeed a real probkem. I am not trying to belittle the significance of your fight, support it, but what I am seeing is far more insiduous
Feb 17, 9:38 PM
Wednesday, Feb 18
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I just realized that the key to the commonality of all these traditions, not just religions, can be there because they were passed on from higher intelligences, or indeed it is mathesis, in the sense that if you try to discover learn and make sense of the world and how it works people facing the same will come to see it in terms that can be articulated, in many different ways meth metaphors that capture some of it
Feb 17, 10:01 PM
These insights do provide a way to make sense of the world as above so below, all is mind etc
Feb 17, 10:02 PM
micro cosm macro cosm etc
Feb 17, 10:02 PM
Gyuri Lajos, [22/01/2026 00:51]Language defines what can be thoughtGyuri Lajos, [22/01/2026 00:51]Concept namedGyuri Lajos, [22/01/2026 00:52]Unthinkable unspeakableGyuri Lajos, [22/01/2026 00:52]Censorship
Feb 17, 10:06 PM
suppresseing concepts words renders key ideas unthinkabl unexchangeable. Now that is the most powereful censorshio that can possibly be. the very words that can help you think the way it would be liberating
Feb 17, 10:07 PM
https://hypothes.is/users/gyuri?q=myth+metaphor
Feb 17, 10:08 PM
I came to recognize that the question of what's in a Name is nmore fundamental then what's in a link (MindGraph(
Feb 17, 10:09 PM
https://hypothes.is/a/JRq9th7wEfCGP3MlOy3CjA
Feb 17, 10:10 PM
I translated the title in my mind to nameless book of heaven.
Feb 17, 10:11 PM
This is why I was so moved by the roadside picnics line about scientist the eggheads
Feb 17, 10:14 PM
Now that they have a word for it Life is a Breeze
Feb 17, 10:14 PM
Indeed
Feb 17, 10:14 PM
Poetry is about finding phrases that resonate
Feb 17, 10:15 PM
meaning/feeling ful
Feb 17, 10:15 PM
educate
Feb 17, 10:15 PM
illuminate
Feb 17, 10:15 PM
https://bafybeihv7szpt46opnxpwgoikewypfnguafcopx7mvj3eet7qtz2poc76i.ipfs.dweb.link?filename=Harry%20Potter%20in%20your%20head%20doesn't%20make%20it%20any%20less%20real%20find%20quote%20-%20Brave%20Search%20(2_17_2026%2010%EF%BC%9A25%EF%BC%9A43%20PM).html
Feb 17, 10:27 PM
That is my all time favourite line in Harry Potter
Feb 17, 10:28 PM
This is a good way of sharing snnotated searches that can help to make a point.Minerva's owl spreds its wing at dusk
Feb 17, 10:55 PM
I am beginning to understand why I resonated with Hermeticism, and how it is at core is a personal heuristics and responsibility
Feb 17, 10:56 PM
https://bafybeifjc6o7pr4snaq5vrhgkcxd23r66artegkgie3ya2sutaaony3psy.ipfs.dweb.link?filename=hermeticism%20role%20in%20heuristics%20-%20Ask%20Brave%20(2_17_2026%2010%EF%BC%9A39%EF%BC%9A35%20PM).html
Feb 17, 10:56 PM
and of course symmathesys universlisdesired to build a system for mutual learning and new ways for practical heuristics embodied in the practica magic medium of softwareas a symmatheticist
Feb 17, 10:57 PM
All learning is Mutual, the in di vi dual is just 1 I, and cannot be divided from the other but can becam 1 through interaction with the Others (with heart mind )
Feb 17, 10:59 PM
and soul
Feb 17, 10:59 PM
Still have some coding adjustments to make to make it ll automated but it should look like this:
Feb 17, 11:10 PM
https://jonudell.info/h/facet/?any=hermeticism&max=100&exactTagSearch=true&expanded=true&addQuoteContext=true&user=indyweb
Feb 17, 11:10 PM
https://bafybeifjc6o7pr4snaq5vrhgkcxd23r66artegkgie3ya2sutaaony3psy.ipfs.dweb.link/?filename=hermeticism%20role%20in%20heuristics%20-%20Ask%20Brave%20(2_17_2026%2010%EF%BC%9A39%EF%BC%9A35%20PM).html
Feb 18, 9:15 AM
Friday, Feb 20
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I've got some thing to complete / to work on this morning. Will check back at 12 your time
Feb 20, 7:10 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
ok
Feb 20, 9:05 AM
I sent you an email.
Feb 20, 9:13 AM
Sunday, Feb 22
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nice. The two perspective become 1 if you conceive of transcendence as effervesence of adjacent future possibilities that is immanent in every situation in every momentThis is how eternity is present complete in every moment
Feb 20, 12:11 PM
unfolds how the meaning of the past emerges and changes by the unfolding future
Feb 20, 12:13 PM
Out present concept appreciation of our past which is unchanging but the way it presents itself to us in every moment is changing and when future generation look back they see a different past a trued appreciation of it
Feb 20, 12:14 PM
Here is a new experimental link, closer to closure everyday
Feb 20, 12:15 PM
https://k51qzi5uqu5dgbb7ivfscw95jb8zh8n2roliqvb5ri1kw974tjf7fn6281ppgt.ipns.dweb.link/%E2%99%96/indy/0/peersuite/space/?p=/%E2%99%96/indy/0/peersuite/space/&r=onboard&n=cpg
Feb 20, 12:15 PM
since I am working in there will hopefully notice you connecting
Feb 20, 12:21 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I am here
Feb 20, 1:03 PM
Just reading what you wrote
Feb 20, 1:03 PM
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lost connectiin
Feb 20, 2:31 PM
connection
Feb 20, 2:31 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I can hear you but
Feb 20, 2:32 PM
you can't hear me
Feb 20, 2:32 PM
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I cannot
Feb 20, 2:32 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Anyway you better go
Feb 20, 2:32 PM
I only wanted to say one last thing
Feb 20, 2:33 PM
De Dignitate et Augmentis Scientiarum (The Dignity and Advancement of the Sciences sometimes referred to as De Augmentis Scientiarum) is a book by Francis Bacon, published in 1623. It is an expanded and Latinized version of his earlier English work, The Advancement of Learning (1605). It is a separate book from Novum Organum (1620) ('The New Tool') and both are parts of his unfinished magnum opus, the Instauratio Magna ('The Great Renewal'), which aimed to reform and advance human knowledge.Bacon wanted to create a tool not in order to identify necessary relations between words and objects but as a tool which enables you to make comparisons, and explore the advantages and disadvantages of different languages which are rooted in the customs of different nations. The concepts of language are not simply signs for objects they are signs for the ideas we form of them in our apprehension of things
Feb 22, 11:04 AM
The Earl of Shaftsbury inspired by Plato & Aristotle was interested in forms. He had a conception of genius as a creative agency. James Harris his son in law wrote a book HERMES (1751) which sought to create a universal grammar. Not a Port Royal type grammar but was rather a commentary on the creative process by which language imposes order on our experience. Hamann rejected any attempt to make the foundation of our experience rational but Herder as a pupil of Kant was interested in linguistic structure. In 1768 Hamann wrote a letter to Herder saying he has ordered a copy of the book HERMES from the publisher "a work which stuck me as indispensable for your work".
Feb 22, 11:18 AM
Leibniz sought to identify universal characteristics. The chaos of immediate impressions takes on order and clarity only when we name it. He sought to identify universal characteristics. His Mathesis Universalis sought to designate the sum and structure of all intellectual approaches using a finite number of signs which are combined in accordance with definite universal rules. There are a finite number of concepts and each of them stands to each other in a definite relation.
Feb 22, 11:24 AM
For Leibniz concepts and reality are indissoluble but Empiricists saw language as falsifying our experience. A characteristica realis represents the fundamental relations between things demanding a logical analysis of the contents of thought. It is an alphabet of thought. Empiricists saw language as an instrument of thought, concepts are names, but with Ideas psychological in nature rather than logical. Hobbes was a Nominalist who claimed that thoughts reside in signs not in things. For Leibniz concepts and reality are indissoluble but the Empiricists saw language as falsifying our experience. In Kant we impose necessary forms on our experience.
Feb 22, 11:25 AM
Hegel building on Kant does not conceive of reason as separate from the sensuous intuition, except that it does not proceed from the parts to the whole but the whole to the parts.
Feb 22, 11:31 AM
Descartes started with consciousness but let the concept relapse into synonymity with reason. The Phenomenology of Mind prepares the way for his logic. He reduces all thought to his logic, and all reality to logic. History is a study of this logic as it unfolds over time. God is the rational order of the universe which arises as a consequence at its attempt at self-understanding, because everything is spirit. Hegel gives you the key to this reality.
Feb 22, 11:35 AM
His ambition was to reconcile nature and the idea but what he did was subject nature to ideas, of which he supplies the science. He was a hubristic maniac.
Feb 22, 11:44 AM
By the way I have discovered a very Gyuri like feature of Taoism. In Buddhism the goal is to escape the cycle of birth and death by aspiring to nothingness (Nirvana) whereas Taoists seek to PROLONG a healthy existence. Significant difference! The circle is not an eternal cycle to be overcome, it is the sacred. Here is the link between Heraclitus and Hegel. Everything is process. Hegel claims to understand it. This by the way is why I am a Christian. I do not seek to overcome the separation of the self from God I embrace it - you can only eradicate alienation by giving up on the reality of the person. That is why Polanyi is a Christian - he is a Personalist. The person is sacred. More sacred than God, because we create the concept of God. Of course this approach risks nihilism, which is why you also need faith in the possibility of a meaningful life. We are separate from the rest of nature in that we create our own meaning but that does not mean we are God. We are explorers of the wonder of it all enriching our understanding of it through making use of symbols.
Feb 22, 3:57 PM
Monday, Feb 23
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
[Trigger Warning] Heraclitus’ philosophy of process, centered on an impersonal logos governing cosmic strife that only a few can comprehend, charts an anti-Christian trajectory by replacing personal agency, choice, sin, and forgiveness with a depersonalized “way.” German Romanticism reinforced this trend by fusing collectivist nationalism with anti-Christian paganism. Nietzsche celebrated heroic struggle and the affirmation of life, but Heidegger radicalized this critique by urging submission to a higher order. His concept of Being-rooted authenticity, tied to Volkish destiny, subordinated individuals to the unfolding Geist as expressed in the State and framed the will to power as the metaphysical source of modern science and technology—a force to be resisted through a humble “letting-be” that rejects Christian moral responsibility. Heidegger’s philosophy was even more anti-Western in its scope: as a Nazi Party member, he implicitly endorsed totalitarianism, the glorification of war, and policies of genocide. Similarly, Eugen Herrigel, the author of Zen in the Art of Archery, supported the Nazi Party. Both were Anglophobes who, like Marxists, viewed England and its Christian-infused bourgeois capitalist system as the source of alienation and inauthenticity in modernity, and therefore as something to oppose. This affinity for anti-Christian, anti-Western thought explains why certain Leftists have embraced Nietzsche, Heidegger, and the other Nazi supporter Carl Schmitt—a dynamic reminiscent of the struggle between Settembrini and Naphta in Mann’s The Magic Mountain, the latter figure modeled on György Lukács.
Feb 23, 12:50 PM
In The Magic Mountain, Settembrini—Mann’s humanist liberal generally interpreted as a stand-in for Mann’s Anglophile values: reasonableness, progress, tolerance, and opposition to totalitarian ideologies such as Naphta’s.
Feb 23, 12:54 PM
Saturday, Feb 28
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Update
Feb 28, 10:44 AM
Context - I was thinking of going to Saint Andrews university and went with my parents to Scotland. We visited a castle in Fife called Kellie Castle and my mother was amazed to hear the guide say that the Olivant family lived there for 400 years! That is her surname. As you know we are a Midlands family (the furthest north Sheffield) but we wondered if there was a connection.
Feb 28, 10:49 AM
Long term project to see if there is a connection. Here is the message I sent on Ancestry to my third cousin who has the surname Olivant. My maternal cousin Pauline paid for him to take a Y chromosome 700 test with Family Tree DNA in Houston in Texas.
Feb 28, 10:56 AM
Hi Chris O, Pauline says that you have got your Y chromosome upgrade results, and so looking at the numbers on the Family Tree DNA site (and with the help of the computer processing power of CHAT GPT) I am fairly confident of the following claims 1) Our Olivant line came from Cumberland in England 2) Tracing it back further back they came from Fife in Scotland (the match is with Anstruther) 3) The North Carolina Olivant's are a branch of the Cumberland Olivant's 4) Kellie Castle in Fife is where the Olivant family lived for 400 years. They were a cadet branch of the Oliphant clan who held the principal title and lands. Over time, the Kellie branch became prominent in its own right, acquiring its own estates in Fife. I do not know if we are genetically connected with the Kellie Castle Oliphant's (our ancestors may have been servants or tenants of the family who adopted the surname) but we are almost certainly connected in some way to the Oliphant family who lived at Kellie castle in Fife. 5) The Family Tree DNA results show that there are several independent Olivant lines that are NOT genetically related to each other a) Duncan Olivant's b) Irish Olivant's c) Scottish Border Olivant's d) Dalmeny/West Lothian Olivant's. We are related to the Cumberland Olivant's, the North Carolina Olivant's, and to the Anstruther Olivant's. My email address is allisgrace1979@gmail.com the old address is no longer working as I changed to Vodaphone and they discontinued the old e-mail. Thank you for taking the test. It has solved a lot of puzzles!Chris G
Feb 28, 10:56 AM
The distance between Anstruther and Kellie Castle in Fife, Scotland is 4.1 miles
Feb 28, 11:00 AM
Friday, Mar 6
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
https://www.nts.org.uk/visit/places/kellie-castle
Feb 28, 11:49 AM
UPDATE - I have done a GROK analysis and it confirms the Cumberland connection but not the Anstruther connection.
Feb 28, 3:03 PM
The Scottish results are split into several distinct, unrelated paternal groups.Big Y-700 sorts them into different terminal haplogroups = different biological lines that split thousands of years ago (long before the Oliphant surname existed).Related Scottish Clusters (that DO share a recent common paternal ancestor)Carpow Olyphants + Dalmeny (W. Lothian)Terminal: R-FTG91212Kits: 110188 (Scotland, Carpow) and 129967 (Dalmeny group)These two are on the same branch. Their most recent common ancestor was probably 200–600 years ago (well within surname times). So this is one tight Scottish family.Anstruther (and the North Carolina Olivant line)Terminal: R-FTF65092Kits: 150276 (Scotland, Anstruther) + 936104 (Henry H. Olivent, NC)These are connected — one Scottish-origin line that migrated to America.Some Duncan Oliphant linesTerminal: R-FTE26995Kits: 87207 (Scotland) and 100158 (Henry Oliphant, Scotland)These two Duncan lines are the same paternal family.Scottish Oliver lines (John Oliver 1657, Andrew Oli 1616, William Oliver 1812, etc.)*Terminal: R-FT49845Multiple kits in the 0740 Scotland Borders groupingThese Scottish Oliver testers form one clear cluster.Unrelated Scottish Groups (no recent connection to each other or to the above)The other Duncan Oliphant line (0720): R-FTD4056 → separate branchScotland Borders (part of 0740): R-FT50751 (e.g. IN49095) → its own lineAnd any remaining “Unknown Origin – Scotland” that fall under yet different terminals.Bottom lineThe Scottish Oliphant/Oliver results are not one big related clan. They fall into at least 5–6 independent paternal lines.Your Nottinghamshire/Cumberland Olivant line (R-FTH32181) remains completely separate from all of these Scottish clusters — with no connection within the last several thousand years.
Feb 28, 3:57 PM
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Morning Christopher. I worked till late. I only had 5+ hour sleep. If u around we could touch base in an hour and 20 minutes or so. Or later.
Mar 6, 6:21 AM
"we are almost certainly connected in some way to the Oliphant family who lived at Kellie castle in Fife." amazing
Mar 6, 6:26 AM
I'm not sure if I'll be able to stay up. Life will struck you done, the question is are you gonna get up.
Mar 6, 7:23 AM
There was a point on the 8th day of the flue that I started to get worried that what I called long covid was back. That permanent pressure on my chest only lifted last January or so.
Mar 6, 7:25 AM
our shared Personal situated perspective and faith is a great anti dote to all that is flooding towards us.
Mar 6, 7:26 AM
I think I managed to reconstellate my perspective on things, most importantly regained my capacity to resume digging
Mar 6, 7:27 AM
I am around
Mar 6, 11:23 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Hello
Mar 6, 11:55 AM
You have been ill, you are not used to it
Mar 6, 11:57 AM
1) It takes a long time to recover
Mar 6, 11:57 AM
2) You will have dark thoughts
Mar 6, 11:59 AM
3) You will not be able to get any work done
Mar 6, 11:59 AM
4) From your radio silence I knew it must be bad
Mar 6, 12:01 PM
I almost rang you yesterday to find out what is going on but I left it to see if you contacted me this morning. I was late (I have been distracted by two cousins asking me difficult family history questions to solve and also the Internet can be distracting) and tried to read a bit (I am halfway through the last Cassirer and want to read a couple more before I re-write ) but was too tired to last through and left it to my body to decide how much sleep I needed.
Mar 6, 12:09 PM
It is a bad strain of flu going round, the important thing is not to push too hard and let the recovery take its course.
Mar 6, 12:11 PM
I will read now I desperately need to catch up.
Mar 6, 12:12 PM
Glad to hear from you.
Mar 6, 12:13 PM
You
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I am around
Mar 6, 12:25 PM
https://k51qzi5uqu5dgbb7ivfscw95jb8zh8n2roliqvb5ri1kw974tjf7fn6281ppgt.ipns.dweb.link/%E2%99%96/indy/0/peersuite/space/?p=/%E2%99%96/indy/0/peersuite/space/&r=onboard&n=cpg
Mar 6, 12:28 PM
see you over there
Mar 6, 12:31 PM
I hope everything is ok
Mar 6, 1:02 PM
Zsuzsa is home will have to try another time
Mar 6, 1:37 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I am here again
Mar 6, 3:02 PM
Everything is fine.
Mar 6, 3:04 PM
I assumed you were asleep.
Mar 6, 3:06 PM
I read a bit and fell asleep, obviously I am catching up.
Mar 6, 3:06 PM
In summary. I have read a few books, not picked at random but superficially picked at random, and they all focus on the same issue I am preoccupied with, and written by educated people. I have arrived at my views independently so this has the advantage that I read them from a point of view of understanding (I think the problem with education is if you don't have a starting point you just repeat stuff without understanding but because I have formed a view based on my own discoveries I understand what they are saying) I think all true understanding has to be based on self-understanding rooted in your own experience.
Mar 6, 3:13 PM
Friday, Mar 13
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I am amazed to read my own insights arrived at by other people although of course with their own idiosyncrasies.
Mar 6, 3:16 PM
The books are by Voegelin, Cassirer, the Regensburg lecture by the Pope, a book by Mark Lilla, there are three more to read.
Mar 6, 3:19 PM
When I have finished I will go back and revise. Not in order to change it but to bring out more clearly what I have already said, in order to enhance its readability.
Mar 6, 3:20 PM
It is interesting that our arguments about Gnosticism and transcendence and Hegel reappear in these books, in a sense it is a landscape which is already there to be discovered, although of course I am selecting for those books.
Mar 6, 3:22 PM
Family history wise a cousin sent me something for me to work out which I did, which was irrelevant because it is not my direct line but was interesting. I did deep research into the Olivant's prompted by the DNA result and now know the place they came from based on early documents. It is a problem solved.
Mar 6, 3:25 PM
I am strangely disconnected from the world situation but living in a world at war is not a pleasant experience, combined with the fact that in the last three years alone 7% of the population of the UK has been replaced by 3rd world emigrants, crime is going through the roof, we have the worst government possibly ever, everywhere there is financial irresponsibility and everybody knows a crash is coming.
Mar 6, 3:28 PM
The whole rotten Leftist establishment has been exposed, but too late, most people write Europe (including the UK) off as beyond repair.
Mar 6, 3:29 PM
Connecting to my work it is all easy to explain (people like Voegelin [who was an optimist] pointed it all out 70 years ago, it is like watching a car crash in slow motion.
Mar 6, 3:31 PM
I have not even got around to McGilchrist yet but there is no point in producing a superficial and unread book just to complete the task in time. The re-write will be quick but intense although I am sure Henry will wonder why I have not written the McGilchrist chapters yet (well one or two)
Mar 6, 3:36 PM
I knew this last couple of months have been the most important of all.
Mar 6, 3:36 PM
Writing a book helps to concentrate your mind because it forces you to articulate what turn out to be deep preoccupations.
Mar 6, 3:37 PM
You then discover that all thinking people have the same preoccupations as you do.
Mar 6, 3:38 PM
.
Mar 6, 4:02 PM
.
Mar 6, 4:03 PM
You
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not uite the same but con-gruent-vergent-sonant yes
Mar 6, 7:39 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
You are on two different pages!
Mar 6, 7:42 PM
You
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Keep up the Good work.
Mar 6, 7:51 PM
That was a thread. will not use that.
Mar 6, 7:51 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
So have you recovered yet?
Mar 6, 7:51 PM
You
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https://bafybeib5rddmht2kc35nhtav6fq5fz7nm2jnewe5uwfrwgstlk4qa2eop4.ipfs.dweb.link?filename=Attila%20J%C3%B3zsef%EF%BC%9A%20I%20WILL%20BE%20A%20GARDENER%20%EF%BD%9C%20Verst%C3%A1r%20-%20all%20poems%20by%20fifty%20poets%20%EF%BD%9C%20Handbook%20(3_6_2026%207%EF%BC%9A42%EF%BC%9A24%20PM).html
Mar 6, 7:51 PM
That poem was written 101 years ago!
Mar 6, 7:51 PM
Yes,
Mar 6, 7:52 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
if the world is already destroyed,let there be flowers on his grave. is a great line
Mar 6, 7:52 PM
You
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I just checked my mail. I did not get to sleep. Cooking and going to bed early
Mar 6, 7:55 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
You did not sleep!
Mar 6, 7:55 PM
ok
Mar 6, 7:56 PM
You
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My niece Terka will be calling around in the morning, I'll do the shopping, fill up the cars, chores and all. On sunday early afternoon I may or may not have time to chat, will see
Mar 6, 7:56 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Don't worry about it. Next Friday is fine.
Mar 6, 7:56 PM
First time I heard her name.
Mar 6, 7:57 PM
Terka.
Mar 6, 7:57 PM
Beautiful name.
Mar 6, 7:57 PM
You
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That;s is Gyuszi's my mother's elder brother's daughter
Mar 6, 7:58 PM
Theresa
Mar 6, 7:58 PM
dimmunitive
Mar 6, 7:58 PM
like Gyorgy Gyuri Gyurka or Gyurika
Mar 6, 7:58 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Ah
Mar 6, 7:58 PM
She is a cousin
Mar 6, 7:59 PM
1st cousin
Mar 6, 7:59 PM
You
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As we get older appreciate more family ties.
Mar 6, 7:59 PM
Yes I get it wrong
Mar 6, 7:59 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I told you I now know the place (within a few miles) where all the English Olivant's came from.
Mar 6, 8:00 PM
You have mentioned her before I just never knew her name.
Mar 6, 8:01 PM
Are the genes being passed on?
Mar 6, 8:01 PM
You
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niece ismy brother's daughter Veronika
Mar 6, 8:01 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Yes
Mar 6, 8:01 PM
Has Veronika been in contact?
Mar 6, 8:02 PM
You
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She is an artist drawing paining like my brother
Mar 6, 8:02 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Oh!
Mar 6, 8:02 PM
It is definitely in the family, even you have talent.
Mar 6, 8:02 PM
You
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Its a long story, but she is quite amazing
Mar 6, 8:03 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
So does Terka have children?
Mar 6, 8:03 PM
Even though you took me to the wrong art gallery (Yes I will never let you forget that)
Mar 6, 8:04 PM
You
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Hanka heard on the grapevine that at CEVA they will be looking for biostatisticians with deep knowledge of a specii package. Snake learned that, did a course and all. The job was not advertise, only 6 month's later. They gave out a specific task she did it over the weekend. Did an excellent job, and they thought that somebody must hae helped here which was not the case
Mar 6, 8:06 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
But you got points for having a favourite painting but it was not there that day it was in an exhibition at Buda Castle.
Mar 6, 8:06 PM
You
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Anyhow she wil start late April
Mar 6, 8:06 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
The guide you talked to was thrilled that you noticed.
Mar 6, 8:06 PM
You
Y
She is still down with that flue, but I guess it was a very testin time the pasttwo weks
Mar 6, 8:06 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Snake?
Mar 6, 8:07 PM
You
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/terka has a daughter 6 month older than Matyi, She has a daughter. Beautiful familiy
Mar 6, 8:07 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
ok
Mar 6, 8:08 PM
You
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what is that snake?
Mar 6, 8:09 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
"Snake learned that, did a course and all. " That is what I was wondering.
Mar 6, 8:09 PM
You
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She anka learned that
Mar 6, 8:10 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
ok
Mar 6, 8:10 PM
You
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I do not know how that snake get ther
Mar 6, 8:10 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
That sounds great news!
Mar 6, 8:10 PM
Your children are both becoming very Hungarian.
Mar 6, 8:10 PM
You
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When she told her colleagues she's got a great news, they all thought that she is prenant.
Mar 6, 8:11 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Guilia is in Canada at the moment.
Mar 6, 8:11 PM
Ha Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mar 6, 8:11 PM
Not until after the marriage.
Mar 6, 8:11 PM
Isn't the father meant to pay for it?
Mar 6, 8:11 PM
You
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I got married without such transactions
Mar 6, 8:12 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
It was in a different Country.
Mar 6, 8:12 PM
You
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ACtually I realized the other day that I did not marry Zsuzsa, but I went to her to be her husband
Mar 6, 8:13 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
My oldest sister says it is the women who chose.
Mar 6, 8:13 PM
You
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This is all a very confounding situation.
Mar 6, 8:13 PM
That is the case. And wise man go along
Mar 6, 8:14 PM
or fools who then become wise
Mar 6, 8:14 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
There have been times when women have been after me and boy you know it
Mar 6, 8:14 PM
You
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I followed JA's advize and sought to sublimate instincts
Mar 6, 8:15 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Very wise
Mar 6, 8:15 PM
But you still got two children you can be proud of
Mar 6, 8:16 PM
truly
Mar 6, 8:16 PM
You
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enchanted by the sub specie aeternitatis it is much easier to go hungry
Mar 6, 8:16 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
True
Mar 6, 8:16 PM
I always knew I was going to be alone and that it was my choice
Mar 6, 8:17 PM
You
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The greatest momen of my life was when I first looked into Matyi's eyes
Mar 6, 8:18 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
The unselfishness of my parents is a wonder to me as you know
Mar 6, 8:18 PM
I completely understand
Mar 6, 8:18 PM
It is an experience I have heard more than one father say
Mar 6, 8:19 PM
My Goodman cousin has children but he says he does not like them very much lol
Mar 6, 8:19 PM
My other cousin had IVF and went straight back to work when it was born!
Mar 6, 8:20 PM
Sorry I mean grandchildren
Mar 6, 8:20 PM
You
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My father was not unselfish, he lived for his family, that was his best self,
Mar 6, 8:21 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Yes
Mar 6, 8:21 PM
I never met them but I can see the two halves of your nature in them
Mar 6, 8:21 PM
Anything not your mother I attribute to your father
Mar 6, 8:22 PM
Don't you want to ask where the Olivant's came from?
Mar 6, 8:23 PM
I think what makes you distinct is the unusual combination of the two sides
Mar 6, 8:24 PM
You
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"Tear drop. An ant drank from it. Can't do wok cause of it."
Mar 6, 8:24 PM
Both lines are quick dead ends
Mar 6, 8:25 PM
No grand parents
Mar 6, 8:26 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
You can make up for it by being a great grandparent
Mar 6, 8:27 PM
when Hanka has children
Mar 6, 8:27 PM
You
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Not much chance for that
Mar 6, 8:28 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Does she not want children?
Mar 6, 8:28 PM
You
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Yes
Mar 6, 8:28 PM
I do not think I'm up for it. Getting too old, as in set in my ways, wanting to be a hermet
Mar 6, 8:29 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Don't be ridiculous
Mar 6, 8:29 PM
You
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can try to change but it is hard
Mar 6, 8:29 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
You have a mental age of about 24
Mar 6, 8:29 PM
I think you would be a good grandfather
Mar 6, 8:30 PM
Anyway stop talking about you. Inglewood Forest.
Mar 6, 8:30 PM
A beautiful valley on the Eden river in Cumberland.
Mar 6, 8:31 PM
You
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Inglewood forrest? Sounds beautiful
Mar 6, 8:31 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Yes
Mar 6, 8:31 PM
I don't know why but all my ancestors lived in beautiful places.
Mar 6, 8:31 PM
The Sheffield family lived in part which is still unspoilt to this day to the N-W Sheffield
Mar 6, 8:32 PM
the houses they lived in are still there
Mar 6, 8:33 PM
little hamlets
Mar 6, 8:33 PM
You
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so nice
Mar 6, 8:33 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Expect to feel depressed for a bit if you had had flu
Mar 6, 8:34 PM
don't push yourself too hard
Mar 6, 8:34 PM
besides the world is going to hell and a handbasket so you need work to insulate yourself
Mar 6, 8:35 PM
You
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Wu Wei indeed
Mar 6, 8:35 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Wu Wei is about aligning with the natural flow of the universe (the Dao/道) rather than forcing things unnaturally.
Mar 6, 8:36 PM
You
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That does not work for me. what I am working on is needed. But u r right, I should not be petrified by the responsibility
Mar 6, 8:37 PM
By doing No Thing accomplish everything. And lay no claims about them.
Mar 6, 8:37 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
By the time they are in their Sixties many people are total fixed in their ways but I am learning new things every day
Mar 6, 8:38 PM
You
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Thanks for your advize and concern. I did manage to get back up
Mar 6, 8:38 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
ok you go now
Mar 6, 8:39 PM
You
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keep up the good work. Thnks for the chat and update
Mar 6, 8:39 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I am here
Mar 13, 1:57 PM
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Mar 13, 9:32 PM
Saturday, Mar 14
You
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home chores and family,We have a regular 4 weekly visit by a cleaner, who is doing a great job. 8-15 on Saturday the first time. today she finished by 1. Tomorrow Hanka Zoli Matyi come for sunday lunch Trurkey teka masala and vegetable korma. After that Small World game. I did not have my machine turned on. My desktop immaoabile laptop is on sometimes, I just got some notification. So I checked my messages before going to bed. I'm getting better but not getting enough sleep.
Mar 14, 8:29 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
About time! I was getting worried.
Mar 14, 8:33 PM
You
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When I know that I won'tgeta chance to do any work for days, that does drag me down. Zsuzsa is tooo busy so I am doing the grocery run on Saturday afternoons. This kind of business involves spending more time to listenning news which is designed to pacify, distract and sedate 1
Mar 14, 8:33 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Yes, the last time we communicated you sounded VERY depressed.
Mar 14, 8:34 PM
You
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I did do some Gardeening after the shopping. That was nice
Mar 14, 8:34 PM
I am not depressed. I just feel I lost my best planet
Mar 14, 8:34 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I think a cleaner is a good idea in the circumstances. My mother had a cleaner who came twice a week.
Mar 14, 8:34 PM
You
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we
Mar 14, 8:35 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
We you have to be clinically insane not to be tempted by depression with all that is going on. I am not depressed but I am in a bubble.
Mar 14, 8:36 PM
You
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Every 4th Saturday 6 hours
Mar 14, 8:36 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Your house was built in a time when people employed cleaners.
Mar 14, 8:36 PM
You
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You got it back to front. We suffer from clinical sanity. It is the world that is insane
Mar 14, 8:36 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I am impressed by your cooking skills!!!!!!!!!!
Mar 14, 8:37 PM
I had a thought where I thought "Gyuri is right" a rare enough occurrence for me to note it.
Mar 14, 8:37 PM
You
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I did not learn it from masters. I just always lived by their wisdom, which states: You have to cultivate an interest in all that you must do. Like eat hence cooking
Mar 14, 8:38 PM
Monday, Mar 16
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
It is really bad to arrange a meeting and not turn up and not contact me until late the next day. Don't do that again!
Mar 14, 8:39 PM
Because it is you I factored it in but with anybody else I would have assumed that had been hit by a car and were in hospital.
Mar 14, 8:39 PM
Take a compliment when it is given.
Mar 14, 8:40 PM
When I visit Pauline it is all bought pre-prepared from a shop.
Mar 14, 8:40 PM
You
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I am preparing a TrailBlazed MindPlex on the a nameless topic of woman soul#
Mar 14, 8:43 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
No, I mean I do not follow the news now because it is all so bad, although I heard that Russia knows it is losing the war (for complicated reasons which are too long to explain here)
Mar 14, 8:43 PM
I have just re-read a book by another very sane female philosopher
Mar 14, 8:44 PM
Aa I pointed out to you I have a long list of favourite C20th female philosophers (it does not included Arendt although she can be thoughtful at her best)
Mar 14, 8:45 PM
Don't you want to know what caused me to say Gyuri is right about something!
Mar 14, 8:46 PM
I was going to tell you on Friday.
Mar 14, 8:46 PM
You
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I m sorry. I missed it because I felt a bit better, went for an Aqua fitness class, the Friday one is much less intensive. A great way to relax, try to get a rest , but that did not work out, I was not up to anything anyhow.
Mar 14, 8:49 PM
Of course I would like to
Mar 14, 8:50 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
That is fine but you must tell me ok!
Mar 14, 8:50 PM
You
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Just do not deserve it
Mar 14, 8:50 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
You are right about The Iliad. It is a council of despair. We advanced human civilization by rejecting it.
Mar 14, 8:51 PM
You
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Sorry. I am not my usual strong self. Actually it was not just that. Family came home from a theter outing early and got into a heated discussion with Matyi that went on till midnight
Mar 14, 8:52 PM
I'm still digesting it
Mar 14, 8:52 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Good, Matyi keeps you on your toes.
Mar 14, 8:52 PM
You
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Pray tell me more. I can interpret these words in so many ways
Mar 14, 8:52 PM
Who are the we?
Mar 14, 8:52 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I mean the Jewish prophets for example said "we can do better"
Mar 14, 8:53 PM
Re-imagine a better life
Mar 14, 8:54 PM
become better human beings
Mar 14, 8:54 PM
You
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Indeed it is very very good. I am glad I ceased the opportunity to tell him in his eyes, that ther happiest momen of my entire life (as Trum would add by far) is ehn I first held Matyi in my arms and looked into is his Yoda grey blue eyes, hw was grey and wrongly just like Yoda
Mar 14, 8:55 PM
No. The prophet told us. always You are Not doing what you were created to do!
Mar 14, 8:55 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
It opened a space up for striving to be better
Mar 14, 8:56 PM
Jaspers called it the AXIAL AGE
Mar 14, 8:57 PM
because he was anti-Christian.
Mar 14, 8:57 PM
You
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Yes. At least in better quarters. I read Graves Jesus the King. The first dozen pages are a wakeup call.
Mar 14, 8:57 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I know you are not your usual strong self. You thought I might attack you but a good man does not attack a person when they are down.
Mar 14, 8:58 PM
You
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In my very uneducated understanding the Axial age is the emergence of the cosmic sognogocance of the individual personal consciousness. Which comes in two variants. One that understands that we are 1 Is only through and arising mutually with the other.
Mar 14, 8:59 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I try to find things I agree with you about but I realize in writing it has to be an ego trip to some extent otherwise there is not point.
Mar 14, 8:59 PM
You
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The other 1 thinks that we should be, or indeed are gods, pure blasphemy
Mar 14, 8:59 PM
Absolutely. Let each man say what he deems to be true and let truth itself be condemned onto God###
Mar 14, 9:00 PM
Indeed
Mar 14, 9:00 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Yes that is one of Hegel's better arguments, he is simply right about that.
Mar 14, 9:00 PM
You
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And the hero is the slave, the one that serves, poor master is deprived of being able to accomplish any thing one slef
Mar 14, 9:01 PM
self
Mar 14, 9:01 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
But his worship of the State is very German and very bad.
Mar 14, 9:01 PM
A whole heap of evil came from it.
Mar 14, 9:02 PM
You
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Absolutely.
Mar 14, 9:02 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I can give you a quick summary of the Olivant findings now I have digested the results.
Mar 14, 9:03 PM
I used 5 different AI engines and learned a lot about their strengths and weaknesses.
Mar 14, 9:04 PM
Powerful but they have to be used intelligently.
Mar 14, 9:04 PM
You
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on that score you are right.
Mar 14, 9:08 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
You can put that up as a badge on the "Gyuri was Right" wall. There are a few others up there.
Mar 14, 9:10 PM
Such as the importance of language as a tool for creating the human.
Mar 14, 9:11 PM
I told you that you sound like Harmann
Mar 14, 9:12 PM
My mother said her favourite bit was when they are helpless babies but the men like it when they begin to talk.
Mar 14, 9:14 PM
She also said the favourite bit of her life was early marriage.
Mar 14, 9:14 PM
My father used to go home for lunch from work!
Mar 14, 9:14 PM
My mother was an amazing cook.
Mar 14, 9:14 PM
After 5 children she got tired of it.
Mar 14, 9:15 PM
You
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I imagine, Blake, like many artisans, did best, worked at home, not for any one else
Mar 14, 9:15 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Yes, but Jules Verne had to build a boat to do his writing in to get away from family distractions
Mar 14, 9:16 PM
You
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When they let me go from Lufthansa was indeed a great blessing in disguise.
Mar 14, 9:17 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
He moored it on the river.
Mar 14, 9:17 PM
You
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I value human entanglement more, now, that I am aware how little time is left. When you experience the death of your cats, three in a row something changers in you. Vakarcs/Clarissa is 17 she is fine, but I know how prescious every moment is when she is around.
Mar 14, 9:20 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I am amazed I am still alive at 63 and have (essentially) never had a job. That I know what to do and writing up my thoughts does not surprise me.
Mar 14, 9:21 PM
You
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Every day I think about the fact that my father died in his 70est year.
Mar 14, 9:21 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
If I had a "wife" I would have been more productive I think.
Mar 14, 9:21 PM
You
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He had a clean bill of health in September, had a back pain in April and the funeral was in June
Mar 14, 9:22 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
My mother started to get dementia at exactly my age.
Mar 14, 9:22 PM
My father told me.
Mar 14, 9:22 PM
You
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That is quite possible. I tell you if I did not have Zsuzsa I doubt I would have completed my PhD
Mar 14, 9:23 PM
Frightening thought
Mar 14, 9:23 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
So do you want to know about the Olivant's?
Mar 14, 9:23 PM
You
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Yes please.
Mar 14, 9:23 PM
I am glad that you appreciate the point about the Illiad. The tue greatness of Homer is taht yu need to hold both views and see the true potential for their mutual giving rise to
Mar 14, 9:27 PM
back in a couple of minutes I see u r writingt##
Mar 14, 9:28 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
The DNA shows all the realted branches of the Oliphant family in Scotland who went there in 1150. It is the same family. That is an amazing result. There are also several groups in Scotland that are genetically different but they just adopted the name. My Olivant family are unrelated to the Scottish Oliphant's, but all date back to c1150 and my particular branch dates back from 1300. The continuity of the English spelling of Olivant (instead of Oliphant) over the centuries (combined with its extreme rarity) almost certainly means a male ancestor married an Oliphant heiress in England and adopted the surname to inherit. Their lands were in England, the Scottish Oliphants are a later branch. Their lands were in the midlands where my family comes from - so always back to middle middle England. They never went anywhere although they are Anglo-Saxon.
Mar 14, 9:31 PM
My Goodman lines goes back to a single village in the C15th and were there or close by for the next few hundred years. But prior to that there is a big gap to an ancestor who lived c2000 BC. My Olivant line goes back to c800 AD. As it stand my male line could be Bronze Age, Celtic, Anglo-Saxon, Viking, or Norman, there is a genetic gap in the haplotree which means they do not know.
Mar 14, 9:35 PM
You
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back. Made a chocolate for Zsuzsa
Mar 14, 9:37 PM
Reading
Mar 14, 9:37 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
They know the genetic sequence but how it relates to the history has to be interpreted. Both lines go back to the Beaker Folk migration
Mar 14, 9:37 PM
So ultimately I am Indo-European and come from the Ukraine.
Mar 14, 9:37 PM
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very interesting. I always assumed having read and my imagination triggered by Robert Graves in Jesus the King, that maternal lines are what truly matters, and actually persists, traceable, more dominant than the paternal lines
Mar 14, 9:43 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I can trace my maternal line via mitochondria.
Mar 14, 9:43 PM
But it changes so slowly it is less useful genealogically.
Mar 14, 9:44 PM
It is very stable.
Mar 14, 9:44 PM
I told you the story of listening to James Tarbor and while listening I happened to look at my mitochondria and saw his picture!
Mar 14, 9:45 PM
He has identical mitochondria to me. Only about 4 people who have taken the test match perfectly with me all from a single county in North Carolina in the USA.
Mar 14, 9:45 PM
Your mitochondria likely goes back to Trier in Germany then Italy then the Eastern Mediterranean to Israel.
Mar 14, 9:46 PM
Most Ashkenazy Jews fit into that pattern.
Mar 14, 9:47 PM
Jews are very keen on finding out about their DNA. My Heritage is an Israeli company.
Mar 14, 9:50 PM
Your Y chromosome almost certainly goes back to the Steppes.
Mar 14, 9:50 PM
Cuman
Mar 14, 9:50 PM
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Zsuzsa told me not to lock the door because Matyi may come home later. She is having trouble sleeping and so did I recently, so it will be good if we could both go to sleep soon.
Mar 14, 9:51 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
ok you go
Mar 14, 9:51 PM
Just updating you.
Mar 14, 9:51 PM
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Thank you.
Mar 14, 9:52 PM
The combination of the long flue and the war had been disruptive.
Mar 14, 9:53 PM
keep well yourself
Mar 14, 9:53 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Never underestimate how long it takes to recover from Flu
Mar 14, 9:54 PM
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I can tell you, what saves me nowadays is that Aqua Fittness class. I average 5 of them in a 4 week period
Mar 14, 9:55 PM
There is one on Mondays and Fridays. this week I just about managed to attend both. Rarely happens
Mar 14, 9:56 PM
The older I get the more exercise I need just to stay the same. I just noticed I my biceps are back!
Mar 14, 9:57 PM
They say y9ou need strong muscles to keep you mind sharp!
Mar 14, 9:58 PM
I do more jigong nowadays, but still not regular enough. But at least three times a week now!
Mar 14, 9:58 PM
Good night, and thank you. And sorry about not turning up.
Mar 14, 9:59 PM
I did not have a chance to talk yo Janoska for weeks.
Mar 14, 9:59 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
By the way you have plenty of years to go. I have an idea of how long you are going to live and you have plenty of time left. No don't ask me how long.
Mar 14, 10:00 PM
The fact that you look after yourself makes a big difference.
Mar 14, 10:01 PM
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Gien shared this James Wong, [12/03/2026 19:50]Vishnu looking at the sunsetGyuri Lajos, [12/03/2026 20:35]Heart warming. Thanks for sharing.James Wong, [13/03/2026 20:24]She's the sweetest cat!
Mar 14, 10:03 PM
good night
Mar 14, 10:05 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Great picture ;-)
Mar 14, 10:05 PM
I forgot your father was illegitimate
Mar 14, 10:07 PM
If you say Gypsy your deep ancestor male will be from India
Mar 14, 10:08 PM
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the word we used is "lelenc" literaliry "foundling"
Mar 16, 2:03 PM
https://bafybeieqvabezxnk4ygo2exgf3jjjatkjog35upeiimdtai5aiu6ykcosu.ipfs.dweb.link/?filename=Search%20%27foundling%27%20on%20etymonline%20(16_03_2026%2014%EF%BC%9A02%EF%BC%9A02).html
Mar 16, 2:13 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Francis Bacon: From Magic to Science by Paolo Rossi.Published: 1968Publisher: University of Chicago Press
Mar 16, 8:26 PM
Note the date
Mar 16, 8:26 PM
Renaissance thinkers influenced by Corpus Hermeticum believed nature contained hidden correspondences that could be discovered through symbolic knowledge. This Hermetic worldview treated the universe as a network of analogies, where knowledge gave humans power over nature.Rossi argues that Francis Bacon rejected the mystical aspects of Hermeticism but retained the idea that knowledge can give humans practical power to transform nature.Bacon replaced speculation with systematic experiment, observation, and method.Thus, Bacon kept the Hermetic goal of understanding nature, but replaced magical insight with empirical investigation.Rossi’s key pointModern science grew by transforming the aims of the Hermetic tradition, not by rejecting them. In Rossi’s view:Hermeticism → desire for power over natureBaconian science → experimental method to achieve it
Mar 16, 8:31 PM
Interest in Hermeticism exploded in the 16th–17th centuries because Europeans suddenly believed they had rediscovered an ancient source of divine wisdom which promised deep knowledge of nature.1. A “lost wisdom of the ancients” suddenly rediscoveredIn 1463, the Greek Hermetic texts known as the Corpus Hermeticum were translated into Latin by Marsilio Ficino at the request of Cosimo de' Medici.Scholars believed these writings came from Hermes Trismegistus, whom they thought lived before Moses.That meant people thought they had discovered a wisdom older than Greek philosophy that revealed the original truths about God and the cosmos. To Renaissance thinkers this was thrilling. It was a vision of human potentialHermetic texts presented a radically optimistic view of humanity.Humans were described as:divine-like creatorsable to understand and shape natureThis fit with Renaissance humanism, especially the ideas of Giovanni Pico della Mirandola, who celebrated human freedom and intellectual power. Hermeticism suggested that knowledge could restore humanity’s lost abilities.3. It promised practical power over nature Hermeticism blended easily with alchemy astrology natural magic. If you understood these hidden relationships, you could:heal diseaseinfluence eventsmanipulate natural forcesSo Hermeticism offered both spiritual meaning and practical techniques.4. It seemed to reconcile religion and science at a time of religious confliuct.Hermeticism appeared to offer a cosmic philosophy in which Nature, God, and humanity all fit together in a single system. For many thinkers this looked like a new foundation for knowledge.5. In 1614, the scholar Isaac Casaubon proved the Hermetic texts were not ancient Egyptian, but actually written in the early centuries of the Roman Empire. This discovery undermined their authority — but by then Hermetic ideas had already helped shape the intellectual climate that produced early modern science.
Mar 16, 8:36 PM
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I only scanned. Will setup on the the ability to discuss, debate and debunk it
Mar 18, 8:36 AM
Off thetop of my head I would reject the allegedclaim of the proof of non-ancient origins of the hermetic writings.I simly observe the deep corespoindence between Taoism and ermeticism. Both tradition clearly had access to teaching in an other language/culture that they articulated/translated into their own language and culture.If we did not have available the original wirings lf Lao Tzu and only had say Englis translation available, we could prove likewise its not ancient origin
Mar 18, 8:44 AM
creative typos: correspointdence we can demonstrate point by point that correspondence.Bu tof course beauty is in the eye of the imagination of the beholder.People simply believe what they want to believe. See only things that are actually in them!As the Kybalion states "The lips of wisdom is closed except for the ears of understanding"The moment wen eyes/ears openned when I read the equivalent in Feynman Quoting gibbon.It was not presented by Feynman into a Motto but I perceived it as such, and understood the the earth shattering significance of the expressed/pointed to idea complex (not a typo my name for context, where the txts is self organized into deeply intertwingled articulate associated complexes that capture the deep inter connectd of ideas where the names of the connections make them intellectually intentionally transparent and communicable by virtue of providing just an entry point and anyone can follow tre trails and engage with itTrailMarks an all goes back to the much discussed intent to empower individuals to learn what they need to learn and lear it together that's why I am so keen on Nora Bateson's concept of symmathesis mutual learning
Mar 18, 9:01 AM
I'll document it later. But there are 157 hypothesis annotations that reference the word symmathesygyuri 105 + indyweb 35 = 140 by mesotpresetgo 13 by GienNeed to find 4 needless in the hay stack will do that later and in fact I would say just following links to these pages from my writings would reveal a salience network for this associative complex conplex
Mar 18, 9:02 AM
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Actually I've been annotating with this possibility in mind. We can create a salience engine that would help 1 to bring to mind what 1 had in mind in aform that would facilitate active curation through converationsServe as a means of finding the people who share interests
Mar 18, 9:10 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I have only read the first paragraph of what you wrote. Responding to it I would distinguish three different claims 1) I am a humanist and so view texts as human articulations taking place at a particular place and time as identified by the techniques of scholarship. These date those texts to the C3rd-C2nd BC in the Eastern Mediterranean probably in Alexandria. 2) Scholars such as Frances Yates have identified the influence of Hermetic ideas on early modern scientists as a result of translations of the Greek texts by Ficino in Florence in the C15th. 3) The New Age Sixties claim that there was a secret wisdom that antedates the Greeks and the Jews.
Mar 18, 10:51 AM
In his novel Foucault's Pendulum (1988) Umberto Eco satirizes the kind of intellectual narrative associated with Paolo Rossi—especially Rossi’s idea (in From Magic to Science) about the hermetic origins of modern science.
Mar 18, 10:53 AM
Summary Eco doesn’t reject Rossi outright he playfully undermines the neatness of that story. Here’s how:1. Rossi describes a historical shift away from magical thinking toward rational science. Eco flips this by showing that educated people are still deeply susceptible to magical thinking.The protagonists—editors steeped in theory—start inventing a fake grand conspiracy (“The Plan”) linking the Knights Templar, Rosicrucian's, and other occult traditions.Despite knowing it’s fabricated, they begin to believe it themselves. Satirical point: The impulse toward myth and occult patterns never disappeared—it just changed form.2. Overinterpretation as a parody of scholarshipEco exaggerates scholarly methods—close reading, pattern-finding, intertextuality—until they become absurd.Every symbol connects to every other symbol.Random data becomes “evidence” of a hidden truth.This mocks the idea that rational inquiry naturally leads to truth, suggesting instead that it can spiral into paranoia if unchecked.3. Conspiracy thinking as “failed science” The invented Plan mimics scientific reasoning:It seeks hidden laws governing history.It treats coincidence as causation.It builds a totalizing system explaining everything. Eco’s satire shows that conspiracy theories resemble distorted science, blurring Rossi’s clean divide between magic and rationality.4. The persistence of esotericismRossi frames magic as something largely superseded. Eco shows it as continuously recycled:Occult traditions don’t vanish—they reappear in new guises.Modern culture (publishing, media, academia) becomes a vehicle for spreading them.5. Irony about Enlightenment confidenceEco ultimately questions the Enlightenment narrative itself:The belief in steady progress from irrationality to reason becomes another kind of “myth.”The characters’ downfall suggests that intellectual arrogance can recreate the very irrationality it claims to overcome.Eco’s novel acts as a meta-critique of Rossi’s “magic → science” progression:Rossi: a historical movement toward rational clarityEco: a cyclical, unstable interplay where rationality and irrationality constantly feed each other
Mar 18, 10:57 AM
With regard to what you say later I sent it to you not as a challenge but only because I thought you might find it interesting given your project. To put it in neutral language, you can see why some of the creators of modern science got interested in such ideas.
Mar 18, 11:01 AM
Bacon, Descartes, Leibniz and so forth.
Mar 18, 11:02 AM
As for the Chinese point Leibniz explicitly saw China as a source of wisdom, as did Hegel.
Mar 18, 11:03 AM
It fits in with a Central European mystical tradition.
Mar 18, 11:04 AM
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Thank your for sharing. the point of reading is to be challenged
Mar 18, 11:08 AM
I find so much co-resonance/respondnce-herence across ALL spiritual traditions and teaching that it suggests to me not that there were many ancient traditions that resurface and mingle in livint traditions all points the a single source which is simply consciousness being here/there everywhere
Mar 18, 11:11 AM
The combinatorial complexity of articulation and the underlying unity of opposites makes it inevitable that all teachings can potentially turned into their opposites.innocence, virtue cannot be attained by striving,The Concept of Wu Way teaches that more you strive the more you destroy what you are after.
Mar 18, 11:15 AM
I fully appreciate the drive for power and control, but the more you focus on it the less becomes attainable, and what you get is Hell on Earth.I had the epiphany the other day, that make me see the concept of Heaven is the most perniscious 1 responsible for creating the helll on earth
Mar 18, 11:17 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I was reading a book and it referenced a book by Geoffrey Cantor. He is very interested in the relationship between science and religion. He is the one who mentioned Jaki to us.
Mar 18, 11:17 AM
One of the more interesting members of the department in my opinion.
Mar 18, 11:17 AM
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Yes, his essay question speaks to that: What was the influence of mathematics on Descartes Programme
Mar 18, 11:18 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
His book on Faraday's interest in religion is now a classic.
Mar 18, 11:18 AM
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I always remember my time with HPS people as a real blessing
Mar 18, 11:19 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
If it was not for HPS and you I would probably have topped myself.
Mar 18, 11:19 AM
By the way somebody who writes all about this was a former member of the HPS department called Walter Pagel. Jerry Ravetz talked about him with reference to Bacon and Harvey.
Mar 18, 11:21 AM
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I do understand what you are saying. But I think your parents had a saving impact too.
Mar 18, 11:21 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
For some reason there was a falling out but I never got to the bottom of it.
Mar 18, 11:21 AM
For sure yes.
Mar 18, 11:21 AM
Polanyi gave a talk at the HPS division and Marjorie Grene was there
Mar 18, 11:22 AM
as well as Toulmin of course who founded it
Mar 18, 11:23 AM
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The power of adjacencies
Mar 18, 11:23 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I chose Leeds because it said it was the biggest philosophy department outside Oxbridge, and so more chance of diversity, and it was a good call by me
Mar 18, 11:24 AM
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Good people tried to talk me out of going to Leeds for HPS and Physics, I am happy I persisted in my folly, a sure path to becoming wise
Mar 18, 11:24 AM
In fact it was a wise choice, the wisdom of innocence
Mar 18, 11:24 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I think Geoffrey had high hopes of you and was fond of our year generally.
Mar 18, 11:25 AM
He was painfully shy
Mar 18, 11:25 AM
but real quality.
Mar 18, 11:25 AM
Remember that Robert Iliffe is now Professor of Intellectual history at Oxford University!
Mar 18, 11:26 AM
He is a lightweight but I never begrudged his academic career because he always worked hard.
Mar 18, 11:27 AM
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I don't think that he eve got such a long essay 20 odd pages. I spent 6 weeks with it, and that was beautiful.I'm glad I did get through on the Phsyscs side. It wasquite a hue challenge, as I had to learn the maths needed in my own time.
Mar 18, 11:27 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Yes
Mar 18, 11:27 AM
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Yes, And remember the Osvat dictum about work and talent
Mar 18, 11:27 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
It is like your joke about luck, you have to buy the ticket.
Mar 18, 11:28 AM
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That was a gomatie experience. Just like the other Essay I worked on in my third/fourth year at High school.
Mar 18, 11:28 AM
the Assignemne t was "The role of Law and Order in Jozsef Attila's Poetry"
Mar 18, 11:29 AM
I read every poem. Scissored out the pages that had these words on them
Mar 18, 11:29 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
As I keep telling you knowing what I now know now about philosophy and universities them wanting to give my LONG ESSAY a 3rd is shocking. I am still living off it 40 years later!
Mar 18, 11:30 AM
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Somehow I had it in me the capacity to take ideas seriously. At the age of 18 I read about it in Osvat
Mar 18, 11:30 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Yes it is one of your best qualities.
Mar 18, 11:31 AM
You live them
Mar 18, 11:31 AM
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Remember all my hero's committed suicide My inherent limitations saved me, rendering the process of wisinning up to reality a slow one.
Mar 18, 11:31 AM
and very enjoyable.
Mar 18, 11:32 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Oh we are both retarded in that respect
Mar 18, 11:32 AM
but we know where we are going
Mar 18, 11:32 AM
that is the difference
Mar 18, 11:32 AM
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Good for the Soul's journey
Mar 18, 11:32 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
It is like working out my family history, it was a crazy task but I got there in the end through sheer determination and attention to detail.
Mar 18, 11:33 AM
With a lot of help from Information Technology.
Mar 18, 11:34 AM
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I do not have my eyes on anything in particular. Just going with the flow, trustin g the universe like another
Mar 18, 11:35 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
It amazes me it is DNA proved my ancestor Lydia Trout lived in Hathersage.
Mar 18, 11:35 AM
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Wow
Mar 18, 11:35 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I mean seriously proved.
Mar 18, 11:35 AM
Scientifically.
Mar 18, 11:35 AM
Baptised at the same font.
Mar 18, 11:36 AM
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You always seemed to me as one that has grown out of that blessed soil. Yours is an enchanted valley, It is nomens a=est omen. True Hope
Mar 18, 11:36 AM
Wow
Mar 18, 11:36 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I never knew my family came from here. But we somehow knew.
Mar 18, 11:37 AM
I have told you a thousand times I can hear your ancestors in you even though we do not know their names.
Mar 18, 11:38 AM
I feel it strongly.
Mar 18, 11:38 AM
I can tell you had some interesting ancestors.
Mar 18, 11:38 AM
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Faith, hope and Love be with you all. Calling it a Force is a good way of talking.
Mar 18, 11:38 AM
with lots of genocidal blood on their hands. That ancestral memory makes me feel that I rather be killed then kill.
Mar 18, 11:40 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I have also told you a thousand times that your "spiritual side" marked you out from the moment I saw you.
Mar 18, 11:41 AM
No wonder two of your family think you are mad.
Mar 18, 11:42 AM
You either have it or you don't.
Mar 18, 11:42 AM
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I had an interesting discussion with Zsuzsa. She is baffled hom much her pupils struggle with Maths. She also recalled never really needed to work to get good marks at school/highschool. I told her im my primary school there were only two pupils who paid attention. I never had to study much. Read what is assigned and pay attention.
Mar 18, 11:43 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Isn't paying attention a Taoist virtue?
Mar 18, 11:44 AM
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It turns out that Zsuzsa got to do Young Mathematicians friendly circle courses through some connections. I was selected from my school/year
Mar 18, 11:44 AM
That's source of all value
Mar 18, 11:44 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
My only comparable experience (I have told you this before) was doing an English comprehension test aged 7 and finishing it before everybody else and the teacher taking my exam paper and giving it top marks before the others had even finished.
Mar 18, 11:45 AM
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I told you, I never experienced boredom. Attention IS Sacred, And Gien replied everything is.
Mar 18, 11:46 AM
Yes
Mar 18, 11:46 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I remember reading fluently at my first class but have no memory of being taught at home.
Mar 18, 11:46 AM
I remember that moment vividly.
Mar 18, 11:46 AM
I loved that teacher.
Mar 18, 11:46 AM
I love sensitivity and kindness in people.
Mar 18, 11:47 AM
She loved children.
Mar 18, 11:47 AM
Attention is sacred is McGilchrist
Mar 18, 11:48 AM
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y Duckiling and another that escapes me. I remember how I learned to read. My mother read me from big beautiful books The Ugly Duckling. I identified with that story for sure. The first letter I learned was g. and very quickly learned the lot and was able to read
Mar 18, 11:48 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I am going to listen to a talk by a sensible woman now
Mar 18, 11:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hbSLkjdFt4
Mar 18, 11:49 AM
No idea what it is about but I know she is sound
Mar 18, 11:50 AM
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I loved my first teacher. She was 80 with long hears growing out of hear face. She struggled with me learning to write, failed, but got top marks and true appreciation. In the second year I plummeted to just pass and as yu know I was the only one who die not make it to be a litle drummer.
Mar 18, 11:51 AM
I've got a call by Janoska, and have to start cooking
Mar 18, 11:51 AM
talk to you soon
Mar 18, 11:51 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
People tell me things and forget that I always remember. I think most people are not interested enough in other people to recall. I remember every detail of whole conversations. Of course I remember the story with your teacher.
Mar 18, 11:51 AM
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I know you know, but it was a delight to tell again in terms that I appreciate it now
Mar 18, 11:52 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
ok I listen to Mary Harrington
Mar 18, 11:52 AM
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TTYS
Mar 18, 11:52 AM
Good Morning Christopher
Mar 20, 6:43 AM
would you prefer 7 am or 11 am your time for a call?
Mar 20, 6:44 AM
whatever suits you better. 12 is fine too
Mar 20, 6:46 AM
unless advised otherwise I'll be here at 12 your time
Mar 20, 6:46 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
7 is better for me
Mar 20, 7:37 AM
Actually I go for food reductions in the shop at 7:30
Mar 20, 7:40 AM
so 7:45 would be best for me
Mar 20, 7:40 AM
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Mar 20, 8:04 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
The spiritual level of existence is fundamentally unknowable. No discipline, argument, or metaphysical system can claim knowledge of it, and both theism and atheism, in asserting or denying it, make overclaims that exceed what we can know. Many philosophers approach the spiritual but spoil their claims by trying to describe, justify, or measure it. The correct approach, exemplified by Polanyi, Voegelin, and Pirsig, is to recognize it as a presupposition that we in fact rely upon, even if we deny it. Its existence is sustained only by belief, not certainty, utility, or analysis. Any attempt to treat it otherwise—claiming it is necessary or knowable—is self-delusion. Acknowledging its unknowable, yet existentially presupposed, character is the foundation of a truly humanistic philosophy.
Mar 20, 8:20 AM
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spot on
Mar 20, 8:21 AM
we know more then we can say and say more than we can know
Mar 20, 8:21 AM
are you back or not yet left?
Mar 20, 8:21 AM
It is 8:22 at my end
Mar 20, 8:22 AM
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Mar 20, 8:32 AM
I am all setup
Mar 20, 8:40 AM
turn on audio and hopefully I will hear you
Mar 20, 8:41 AM
may help if you turn the video on briefly
Mar 20, 8:41 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I am here
Mar 20, 8:42 AM
Just back from the shop
Mar 20, 8:43 AM
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just use the link above
Mar 20, 8:43 AM
do a reload
Mar 20, 9:09 AM
hello
Mar 20, 9:15 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I am here
Mar 20, 9:15 AM
Do you want me to re-load as well?
Mar 20, 9:16 AM
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Mar 20, 10:31 AM
unplugged the laptop tried to move it about
Mar 20, 10:32 AM
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Mar 20, 10:32 AM
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ok
Mar 20, 10:32 AM
I watched some YOUTUBE videos recently (you watch one and they keep sending them) looking at how household food products in Britain no longer taste the same. The answer is the producers have been taken over by food giants who re-engineer them to make them more cheaply and longer lasting and in EVERY case it makes the product worse. The motive is simple - to maximize profit and minimize costs. As Adam Smith pointed out it is a conspiracy against the consumer. There is a political conspiracy for people working for the State to desire more power and money for themselves, so there are two different conspiracies for starters. There are a diverse set of competing interests not a single masterplan, and there are a diverse variety of causes of our doom.
Mar 20, 1:36 PM
It was Victor Davies Hanson who said students now in the USA are ignorant in a way that was not true of earlier generations.
Mar 20, 2:56 PM
Traditional Jews in the USA have much lower abortion rates than the general population because their religious customs discourage it, but secular Jews have much higher rates of abortion because of an appeal to Leftist values.
Mar 20, 3:10 PM
Every single conversation becomes about the same conspiracy claim! A conversation about Balzac or about anything else would be a welcome change.
Mar 20, 3:19 PM
1) William Fox, born as Fried Vilmos in 1879 in the small Hungarian village of Tolcsva, 2) Adolph Zukor the Founder of Paramount Pictures born in 1873 in the Hungarian town of Ricse. 3) Bela Lugosi 4) Michael Curtiz 5) Andrew G. Vajna (producer of The Terminator) 6) ISTVÁN SZABÓ 7)VILMOS ZSIGMOND 8) George Cukor 9) Miklós Rózsa, 10)Joe Eszterhas 11)Rachel Weisz 12)Drew Barrymore 12)Fanny Brice - (1891-1951) born Fania Borach in Manhattan to a Hungarian mother. 13)Adrien Brody - (1973-) Academy Award Best Actor winner for The Pianist (2002) and for The Brutalist (2024). His mother is the noted Hungarian born photographer Sylvia Plachy. 14) Louis C.K. - comedian 15) Jamie Lee Curtis - (1959-) actor and daughter of actors Tony Curtis. Her paternal grandparents were Hungarian Immigrants. 14) Rodney Dangerfield 15)Peter Falk - (1927-2011) born in New York of Hungarian ancestry on his mother's side. 16)ZSA ZSA Gabor - (1917-2016) born Gábor Sári in Budapest she was an actress and socialite. 17) Goldie Hawn - grandparents Hungarian Jews 18) Lisa Kudrow 18) Hedda Lamarr 19) Peter Lorre 20) Ali MacGraw 21 Bill Maher 22) Paul Newman 23) River Phoenix 24) Jerry Seinfelt 25) Carl Reiner 26) William Shatner 27) Johnny Weissmuller
Mar 20, 3:46 PM
In Britain Literature and mediaOscar Deutsch (1893–1941) – founder of Odeon Cinemas[13]Sir Alexander Korda (1893-1956) – producer, directorMina Loy – artist, poet, playwright, novelistGeorge Mikes (Mikes György) (1912–1987) – writerBaroness Emma Orczy (Orczy Emma) (1865–1947) – writerEmeric Pressburger (1902–1988) – screenwriter, film director, producerEgon Ronay (Rónay Egon) (1915–2010) – food criticPetronella Wyatt – journalistStephen Fry – writer, actorArthur KoestlerLeslie Howard (1893–1943) – actorKerry Katona – singerMark Knopfler – singer, songwriter (Dire Straits)Michael McIntyre – comedianCatherine Schell – actressSir Georg Solti (Solti György) (1912–1997) – conductor
Mar 20, 3:53 PM
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" so there are two different conspiracies for starters. There are a diverse set of competing interests not a single masterplan, " There is a clear and present Master Intent and many factions, yes with implicate (m)align intent, seving the Power that wills for ever evil, does forever Good
Mar 21, 8:22 AM
When 17% of LNG supply vanishes on a single day which may take 3-5 years to recreate, it is a reasonable heuristic to try to fit it into a bigger picture
Mar 21, 8:28 AM
So much that was labelled conspiracy theory gets proven every day, as facts
Mar 21, 8:30 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I try to talk about different topics, but our conversations keep returning to the same one, in the same phrases and in very black-and-white terms, even when I’ve said I don’t want to keep going over the same ground. I make an effort to bring up things that might interest you, but it feels like you’re not interested in anything else, and that makes it hard for me to engage. I’d really like more variety of topics and some genuine back-and-forth in a mutual learning experience, because as it is I find the conversations are getting quite one-sided and, to be honest, quite tedious.
Mar 21, 9:51 AM
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My apologies. Will make a better effort to avoid it.The truth is coming out in torrents.Suddenly the Youtube Algorithm has been revised.The more factual, credible account of what's been going on over the past half a century is comming to focus.Main stream channels Channel 4, Uk radiao channels and so much more,giving place to contrarian (up till now totally suppressed view points)This may be because i do not log in to Youtube but access it view Brave without history,So algorithms truthfully takes me to adjacent relevant videos that match the links I keep returning on a regular basis.
Mar 21, 11:28 AM
what i more surprising that channels that promote ideas that used to be followed up with deplatforming are seem to be arround without being shut down.Some channels get shut down, but reinstated within days.As if there are powers acting who actually want to promote alternative views
Mar 21, 11:29 AM
I think we are a clear inflexion point a rupture is happening as we follow what's going on.Contrarian views spread and lies gets exposed real time!What is most disturbing is that manifest insanity has a shape a pattern to them and predictions abut future consequences are born out at a staggering rate.
Mar 21, 11:36 AM
People will be forced to making the necessary gestalt switch, but it will be too late to act to to soften the blow that is unfolding
Mar 21, 11:39 AM
On the positive side, regarding IT related issues, most channels with established credibility are saying all the things that I thought and talked about for decades!Books written a 14 years ago
Mar 21, 11:44 AM
https://www.theverge.com/2012/1/2/2677097/cory-doctorow-28c3-war-on-general-computation
Mar 21, 11:44 AM
It is all happening today
Mar 21, 11:44 AM
DRM digital rights Management. Ive been a paying customer for audible. Used my monthly credit to legally obtain all the Frank Herbet books and others. Then when I stopped the monthly payment I realized I cannot access any of them!
Mar 21, 11:47 AM
That's a small issue.
Mar 21, 11:47 AM
I am very grateful, and appreciate your persistence, trying to tell me things I need to understand, unfortunately takes literally decades.
Mar 21, 11:59 AM
But this time, perhaps for the 100ths times you succeeded. I've got it. Your point about repeating, like a sacred chant, forever word combinations like "metaphysycs of adjacency" or the cosmic important of the concept of "adjacency" is not enough. Unfortunately when it comes too deep ideas I am woefully inarticulate. You are right, I have to start thinking about how to build a "Royal Path" to such ideas
Mar 21, 12:02 PM
Purely as an aside, the famous claim, that there is no Royal Road to Mathematics" was true in its time, but it is obsolete. Now that I am at the verge of being able to use the computing machinery to help people to externalized their intellect in a form that can facilitate mutual learning is nigh.Bacon, Descartes, Leibnitz, Engerlbart, Ted Nelson etc had the same vision, a novum organon, mathesis universalis, regula ad directions ingenii, augmentig human inter intellect, etc. Both understood thesignificance of notation, Englebart was thinking about informal, yet machine interpretable, notation and methodologies realized with the help of the computer. Descartes, Leibnitz struggled to find better formaism, notation that help human thinking. They got stuck in the world of formalism, that are mechanizable. They lost sight of the importance of articulation formulation that without it ever achieving finite completeness, consistency, fully automatable. Really important questions intent are inherently incomplete as they expand knowledge and in doing so reveal more things that are adjacent, but still unknown
Mar 21, 12:18 PM
formalism bring rational account, which as Wittgenstein rightly pointed may bring control but leaves us bereft of the ability of dealing with things tha really matter.
Mar 21, 12:28 PM
That i the domain of unfolding coevolvin autopietic Quality. Quantity may have its own quality as Stalin rightly pointed out, but the converse is not true. No amount of quantitative, plodding with the requirement of complete, consistent approach can capture quality.coherence, salience, significance the Reasonable, which is irrational, in the sense of inexhaustible, uncapturble by rational via complete, consistent account. The paradigm case of this is numbers that cannot be written down as ratio of two integers. Square root of 2 is the paradigmatic example
Mar 21, 12:32 PM
It all boils down the new ways of doing things, not a question of what you do
Mar 21, 12:33 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I think you risk getting carried away by the Engelbart or Vannevar Bush rhetoric ignoring inconvenient realities. AI is making us stupider. It is very convenient of you to say this is being caused by a conspiracy against understanding because this allows you to ignore inconvenient realities that do not fit the rhetoric. Mathematics is hard because ultimately it is we who give it meaning, and we are fallible exploratory creatures who try to make sense of things by relating articulations to our experience. AI makes us stupider because it delivers answers for us without any effort on our part. The machine does the thinking for us, but of course it is not actually thinking it is just following rules. Intelligence corrects articulation with reference to reality, something we experience and are striving to make sense of it. Machines can be tools for facilitating thinking but they are not thought itself. That is an AI delusion. Machines used correctly are useful, but we are there at the beginning and the end and are even guiding the process itself. All this conspiracy talk tacitly assumes utopianism. Of course everything is a conspiracy, where were you when life was going on, have you not noticed? It needs you to point it out? But claiming there is a single conspiracy is an illusion. Anyway I am going to avoid only talking about your ideas I have my own ideas which (as is the way of things) I believe to be correct and demand my attention.
Mar 21, 10:35 PM
Philosophers are constantly getting deluded by language, or at least are attracted by fairy tales about magic thinking. We are human, and the order of existence (and meaning) is a project of continual discovery, inspired by ideals that we can never wholly realize, indeed the concept of absolute understanding makes no sense because all knowing is situated. Our experience is our starting point. Just focus on making better tools and put delusions about discovering a Royal Road to one side. Neither language nor AI is a Royal Road to what is real and any claim that it is, is a Rationalist delusion.
Mar 21, 10:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSdr_o-buJE
Mar 21, 11:31 PM
Thursday, Mar 26
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I have just realised something. You know I told you that my LONG ESSAY contained the germ of what I am writing now. It was essentially a review essay of a book that had just come out by Richard Rorty that I found in the bookshop. I pointed out that everything he was saying had already been said in the C19th, that he undermined himself because he assumed what he was attacking, and that philosophy is a continual process of discovery. The latter point was undeveloped, Hacking led me to Pirsig and then back to Polanyi. McGilchrist had not yet written anything but this all lay in the future. They said it deserved a Third. I got this from an indiscreet member of staff. With hindsight me picking Rorty was brilliant because Post-Modernism was the thing (as it happens) which was to dominate the next 30 years and I was ahead of the curve. I also realise in retrospect that when the results came out I was asked to stay behind and knowing my weakest bit was political philosophy I popped back to get a book on political philosophy to read expecting a long wait and they obviously asked for me and I was not there, even though I had not gone for long, so they were obviously giving me a chance to bump me up to a 2:1. I was totally disengaged and depressed so I had not done the work to deserve a 2:1. These things have a logic to them. But I have only just realised something. They said (the indiscreet member of staff said) I must have copied my Long Essay from a book and I only now realize why they thought that. It was brilliant and original. The only book I used was Rorty. I now realize they could nor believe I had the knowledge of the history of philosophy that I did. To understand and undermine what Rorty was saying about the history of philosophy for example. They could not believe I knew so much. I only have realised it now. Knowing what I know now. I had not settled my ideas but I already knew so much. It was not just their prejudice (although that as well) in retrospect I had a more profound understanding than they did (even then) and they thought I must have copied it from some professor. It is still not to their credit because I later gave them some thoughts where I developed my ideas and they still rejected me whereas Sheffield snapped me up and I was the favourite of their most distinguished Professor. Even that I only realize now. He gave the the highest marks he had ever given and they all viewed me with respect, even though they knew better than I did that I was in the enemy camp. As I told you I new realize that Cantor had some of the same preoccupations as me even though I knew nothing about that at the time because I barely spoke to him.
Mar 23, 3:33 PM
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Yes its all true. I really appreciated your essay right there. Actually, I knew there and then that it was your dharma, and appreciated it as such. It certainly resonated with my own preoccupations.
Mar 23, 9:25 PM
I understood that Rortry was just the occasion and trigger and you responded to it with your own thoughts.
Mar 23, 9:26 PM
I also remember our shared appreciation of Hacking.
Mar 23, 9:27 PM
and Even Hgel was right there via Lakatos, and also your appreciation of Hungarian Huristic Tradition and of course Polanyi was there too.
Mar 23, 9:28 PM
I am sorry I do not remember your grade. But you sure qualify for the failed first, which is a good way to exchange intellectual achievement for a lousy carrier
Mar 23, 9:31 PM
You probably did get your 2.1 otherwise even Sheffield could not take your I presume. It's ain't what you knew but the intent interest you cultivate the ays you do it that matters
Mar 23, 9:32 PM
Many brilliant minds are trapped in academia, and they have qualities that enables them to sense potential for excellence.
Mar 23, 9:34 PM
I just found the copy of the form for my PhD by Research application form, and my God knowing what I know now, I appreciate why they supported my. They did not understand what I am on about, but clearly already showing practical results and I did promise the earth as an obvious possibility!
Mar 23, 9:36 PM
I wrote as a supporting information on the form: (All with typewriter of course on the form:Practical experience relevant to this application:I have devoted the last year to the study o the programming language LISP (cf.John Allen/1978/: The Anatomy of LISP) and to the project-driven exploration of **much that is interesting in Computer Studies**
Mar 23, 9:40 PM
I did promised to develop the Language of /effective Metalinguistic description and its implementation system a nove programming methodology that utlizes Metalinguistic Abstraction as the vehicle of program design and automated code generation
Mar 23, 9:43 PM
an incremental Evolutionary /system design methodology resulting and order of magnitude reduction in the development and maintenance costs of complex software
Mar 23, 9:44 PM
The very sam thing that a decade later Simnonyi proposed worked onprpoposed under the laesl intentional software and he also envisaged building a Language WorkBench as a vehicle of such methodology
Mar 23, 9:45 PM
I am still working on the same intent except I had developed the required novel meta-concepts and viewpoints. Corrected may mistakes like and misnomers it is not about programming at all
Mar 23, 9:47 PM
But as John Alan said it is all about notation and methidologies
Mar 23, 9:47 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
1. Miłosz’s Nobel Prize Lecture (1980)Miłosz mentions how Blake helped to shape his understanding of religion, imagination, and modern crisis:He says that through Blake he gained “a deeper understanding of the religion of the Old and New Testaments” and a sense of spiritual seriousness, not just intellectual debate.He quotes his relative Oscar’s use of Blake to diagnose the spiritual problems of modernity and the need for imaginative renewal.He treated him as a prophetic voice about the spiritual condition of the modern world. 2. “The Land of Ulro”Miłosz’s The Land of Ulro is his key work about the modern spiritual crisis. The title and concept come directly from Blake’s mythic geography:Ulro in Blake’s mythology (a materialistic, spiritually dead world) appears in Miłosz’s book as a symbol for a world cut off from deeper spiritual meaning. In The Land of Ulro, Miłosz discusses Blake as somebody who tried to resist a purely scientific/mechanistic worldview and keep alive the role of imagination and spiritual depth. Blake is part of Miłosz’s intellectual “lineage” for understanding why modern life feels hollow and how imagination might be part of a remedy. 3. Blake and ImaginationIn essays by Miłosz he explicitly highlights Blake’s focus on imagination as something essential—not merely aesthetic, but ontological (part of how we see reality):For Blake imagination isn’t just creative play—it’s the fundamental way humans engage with meaning and spirit.Miłosz contrasts this with reductive scientific views of the world. Why Miłosz loved BlakeShared concern with oppression and evil: Both writers see systems and spiritual blindness as imprisoningImagination as salvation: For Miłosz, as for Blake, spiritual and artistic imagination is what rescues the human soulProphetic moral vision: Blake’s critique of materialism, rationalism, and authority resonates with Miłosz. He rejects a world focused on quantitative thinking where imagination is sidelinedwhere people feel alienated from spiritual depthHe argues these trends aren’t just intellectual errors but produce a “wasteland”.
Mar 26, 10:38 AM
Friday, Mar 27
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Mar 27, 7:42 AM
I am around in the chat. Hopeful you can just join and start audio and I my notice
Mar 27, 7:43 AM
I was not feeling well last couple of days. Long covid low persistent in ability to takes refreshing deep breadth.I feel much better. It IS all in themind. Be very very careful not only what u wish for, but what you attend to. Systematically need to disrupt your auto pilot.
Mar 27, 7:46 AM
Digital detox or stop watching thoise things that you regularly watch. Take a time out. Move to the edge of your interest, engage with demanding things there. Better still radically reduce your use of YoutUbe creates your v ery on personal tube/tunnel vision. Be afraid, very very afraid
Mar 27, 7:49 AM
I now have three laptops. The latest one is running Linux. Starting the transition away from Windows
Mar 27, 8:12 AM
Unix/Linux has this feature that allows switching between desktops. I had that setup on my sun workstations since the late 80s.
Mar 27, 8:14 AM
Apparently some major Startup incubators declared that they only work with Startups who use Linux, because they recorded 30% higher success rate
Mar 27, 8:16 AM
https://bafybeihnx2av7bqvo4brlsc65lt2qc7nmj5mleg7fj6g7dwmurjeqm7hte.ipfs.dweb.link/peersuite/space/?p=/%E2%99%96/indy/0/peersuite/space/&r=onboard&n=cpg
Mar 27, 8:18 AM
I am still working on providing a better link
Mar 27, 8:19 AM
the call on Wednesday exceeds my expectations. Will see soon enough if it works out. This is a kind of collaboration where people deeply understand the depth of the challenge and share my strategic patience. Despite that I do hope to make rapid practical progress. I need to learn to be more interruptable, keep open hours every day when people can connect realtime share and collaborate
Mar 27, 8:22 AM
Zsuzsa's dictum is applicable here. Since I am always busy, I should be interruptable at any time. "Never Better Time then now"
Mar 27, 8:23 AM
I propose a compromise and keep open-to-chat hours
Mar 27, 8:23 AM
This may require dynamic switching
Mar 27, 8:25 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I am here
Mar 27, 8:31 AM
Saturday, Mar 28
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Just reading what you wrote
Mar 27, 8:31 AM
"I was not feeling well last couple of days"
Mar 27, 8:33 AM
Still!
Mar 27, 8:33 AM
It is probably taking you longer to recover
Mar 27, 8:34 AM
because you are nearer 70 to 20
Mar 27, 8:34 AM
the body takes longer to recover
Mar 27, 8:34 AM
but you are still healing
Mar 27, 8:34 AM
I can't watch tv news now
Mar 27, 8:35 AM
it is all so pre-packaged
Mar 27, 8:36 AM
by idiots
Mar 27, 8:36 AM
All they know is the agenda
Mar 27, 8:36 AM
the Internet gives you more freedom of choice
Mar 27, 8:36 AM
but you are right you have to be discriminating
Mar 27, 8:37 AM
I was expecting a ping (there was no ping) so I had a bath and was listening to a wonderful speaker
Mar 27, 8:37 AM
his voice was so soft I did not get all the words as I was in the bath but I got enough to know what he was saying
Mar 27, 8:38 AM
I am getting nothing, I will carry on reading
Mar 27, 8:43 AM
No YouTube is great, but you have to be in control,
Mar 27, 8:45 AM
People can learn more in a day on You Tube that 3 years at university
Mar 27, 8:46 AM
So Linux is still a thing
Mar 27, 8:47 AM
Open to chat hours is how professors organize their time
Mar 27, 8:48 AM
I noticed it but only now see the significance
Mar 27, 8:49 AM
I have been here 20 minutes and no response from you
Mar 27, 8:49 AM
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Mar 27, 10:09 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Well you can't say I didn't try to divert you from your hyper-focused mania. I am living in a Country in a state of collapse being caused by something that has nothing to do with information processing (it was happening long before the invention of the computer) and has everything to do with a false philosophy, with its roots in the whole modern project, but I can see your mania is too deep to be adjusted so I will leave it there. As long as you don't try to convince me that yours is the only topic worth talking about, it will be fine. I am not saying you (and others like you) are not right to focus on the problem that you do, but viewing it as one among other problems is the best I can do. My project (and like you there are others who share my view) against nihilism has more than enough to occupy me, and as l say as long as you do not expect every conversation be about your project it will be fine. You are not fighting an illusion.
Mar 27, 8:54 PM
I read today that a bookshop in LEEDS suggest that their customer vandalize a designated copy of Harry Potter, because J.K.Rowling liked a tweet that said trans women are "men in dresses". Fortunately she can afford 24/7 security.
Mar 27, 9:05 PM
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Thank you for your forbearance in the face of hyper-focused mania. I could not agree more, that what we are facing has been there forever.What you told me about the many versions of the Koran, that just like he dead sea scrolls, are momentour discoveries."state of collapse being caused by something that has nothing to do with information processing "
Mar 28, 8:21 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Recent scholarship on the origins of Islam is telling us that the biographies (sira), sayings of the Prophet (hadith) were not written until 200 to 300 years after Muhammad died in 632 CE — so historians now understand them as shaped by later politics. Early on, the movement looks like a group of monotheists [Monophysites] which included Jews and Christians. Then came the Arab conquests. From Caliph Abd al-Malik (r. 685–705 CE), a brand-new Arab religion was created to hold the empire together, heavily relying upon but cutting ties with its Jewish and Christian roots, to make Arabs feel like the new chosen people with their own identity and symbols (building the Dome of the Rock and standardizing Arabic and the Quran). Some researchers question how central Mecca was at the start — there are almost no mentions of the city in the earliest sources, and the prayer walls (qibla) of the very first mosques point to Petra in Jordan and sometimes Jerusalem instead of Mecca. Dan Gibson and others suggests the orientation to Mecca took place later, possibly under Abd al-Malik who for political reasons created an Arab holy center. The ancient manuscripts found in the mosque at Sana’a in Yemen showing textual differences support the idea that the Quran was being continually being re-shaped. Some of the writings in the Koran make sense once you put in different vowels and it is revealed that they are copies of Christian hymns.
Mar 28, 9:14 AM
This song does not need any explanation, it is there in the music, but it is an old Armenian folk song.
Mar 28, 5:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxMhPxkC2o0&list=RDhxMhPxkC2o0&start_radio=1
Mar 28, 5:50 PM
The Muslim Turks massacred 75% of all the Armenians on the grounds that they were Christians and were envied.
Mar 28, 6:34 PM
Thursday, Apr 2
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Dle Yaman means "Oh my heart"
Mar 29, 1:33 PM
You know I bet you cannot say (however vaguely) what my insight was which so impressed McGilchrist that he put in in his book, which some are describing as one of the great works of philosophy in our time. This is what I mean by your vehemently denied narcissism. I am focusing on sending Henry my next draft, so I will not be able to talk tomorrow. You saying that Gien does not like the way in which you are moving away from Personal Knowledge Management sounded ominous.
Apr 2, 12:25 PM
Friday, Apr 3
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Thank you for letting me know.
Apr 3, 3:23 PM
You are quite right. My guess would be, but only a guess, that it was pointing with Polanyi the Personal situatedness of Knowing. However, I can recall the warm feeling I felt on hearing about it. A Major triumph well deserved in my assessment. I would add at the risk of being branded super )or supra) narcissist, that the greatest joy for me is see others' achievements. As you know my attitude is radical non-jealousness.The one about McGilchriss is at the level of me learning that the decision has been made that the first three ranked on top for that Academic Competition where Matyi came third with his essay will be published. (Because matyi's superviser through so highly of Maatyi''s work. Again, I was proud not just as a father, but because it vindicated my assessment/realization when Matyi was working on his MA English Literature, that I am here because that leads to Matyi. Now I would find it difficult to regard that s a sign of narcissims. In fact, I have a very low opinion of myself, a blind hen who could still find a seed. I define super narcissim when one works on the basis of the illusion that they are trully self less, not selfish. I do strive to complete the work of my life, and do it in a way that the cntribution can spread and live on without knowing snything about my work. This is the key to producing something that is unstoppable, unenclosable. The greaatest gift to mankind from |IPFS is to provide the infrastrutute to produce value and let the creator walk away, stop yet the work will persist without anyone's continual effort, or claim or blame
Apr 3, 3:38 PM
I preferred Newton talking about himself on the beach. I found his anagram really ab horrent. I live by the line that thou shall not be a priest of anyone, nor of yourselves/Narcissim is welf--worship, and I despise the very concept of worship. The concept of God that demands worship and obedience is itself belittling God
Apr 3, 3:45 PM
Service in realizing your individual human potential in harmony with Human potential is what I am devoted to not any God Head, and that is a responsibility
Apr 3, 3:48 PM
Wish you all the best in your endevaour
Apr 3, 3:49 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Yes that was an awesome achievement by Matyi. I never said don't try to do the best you can.
Apr 3, 10:39 PM
Saturday, Apr 4
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I am also very proud of what Hanka is doing. As their father you are rightly proud of what what they have both achieved. At the moment Giulia is in Ontario in Canada studying Forensic psychology.
Apr 4, 10:34 AM
P.S. You are not a blind hen.
Apr 4, 11:02 AM
Wednesday, Apr 8
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I am preparing for the biweekly meetings today. Tommorrow my niece is visiting. Let me know the best time for you on Friday to chat
Apr 8, 6:52 AM
Friday, Apr 10
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Hello. My niece visited us with her long term partner. I had eaten too much pancake and chestnut cake she brought. So I woke up and worked till now.
Apr 10, 6:15 AM
I think I'll crash out soon. Zsuzsa, Matyi are home all day. do ping me when u around. Will be checking my mail/messages
Apr 10, 6:18 AM
Wednesday was an encouraging call. I'm making good progress. There I learned about a new to me project that seems on a par with Peergos. It pursues a different st of choices but the same values.In 2021 Juan Bennet asked the question at a DWEB online gathering "Who is doing the job of connecting and facilitating interplay across DECENTralized web systems?"Of course he was not using my terminology but really asking the same question. At that time I was already working with Fission which I intended to extend and seed the indyWeb. Then Fission folded, but I found Peergos which was a viable alternative. By the end of last year IPFS Desktop released a new version which actually, for the first time in a decade delivered fully on the original promise.
Apr 10, 6:25 AM
i am combining IPFS Desktop and Peergos to deliver an end to end full development spiral to bootstrap the seed for the IndyWeb.
Apr 10, 6:26 AM
This one also means that I;ll be able to produce compelling exemplars of the vision, and practically useful examples. Hopefully Ill have something worth showing in 2 or 4 weeks time to the people we had that second call with on Wednesday
Apr 10, 6:28 AM
I hope you are doing well too.
Apr 10, 6:31 AM
I mean attending to to the flowers in YOUR Garden
Apr 10, 6:31 AM
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Apr 10, 6:36 AM
Interestingly I explained to the people in the call last week the concept of enshitification. They are like me, jump for joy when they learn a new word that expands their understanding ( a reel psyche dellic experience)I think introducing the term anitenshitification may jar even my sensibilities, but it is precise way to refer to what its all about.
Apr 10, 6:39 AM
I haven't signed up and signed in to the platform. I want to do the same but not even requiring signing in and signing up! We do not need no accounts created for us, branded like cattle
Apr 10, 6:40 AM
Signing up and signing in facilitates the control grid. They even legislated for it in the States it is called Know Your Customer. We need not only Ted Nelson's Computer Lib, but Customer Lib. DFOS is using Zero Knowledge Proofs as a fundamental Cryptographic Built in capability. Armed with that there should not be a sign in and signup with an email at all
Apr 10, 6:45 AM
Insted of Know Your Customer empower people to connect with each other on their own terms for their benefit not first and foremost for the provider;s benefit. The key to enshitification is the very process of signing u and signing in and tie your identity
Apr 10, 6:49 AM
https://via.hypothes.is/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EmstuO0Em8
Apr 10, 7:05 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
"I learned about a new to me project that seems on a par with Peergos" Interesting.
Apr 10, 1:14 PM
"pancake and chestnut cake" WOW
Apr 10, 1:15 PM
Fission folded?
Apr 10, 1:18 PM
"By the end of last year IPFS Desktop released a new version which actually, for the first time in a decade delivered fully on the original promise." Great news.
Apr 10, 1:19 PM
"I am combining IPFS Desktop and Peergos to deliver an end to end full development spiral to bootstrap the seed for the IndyWeb." Sounds promising.
Apr 10, 1:20 PM
"This one also means that I'll be able to produce compelling exemplars of the vision, and practically useful examples. Hopefully I'll have something worth showing in 2 or 4 weeks time to the people we had that second call with on Wednesday" Excellent!
Apr 10, 1:21 PM
Thursday, Apr 16
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I trusted myself (I do not know where that trust from but I can guess) to come up with improvements to what I have written so far, even though I also have pressing deadlines (it is how reality makes its presence felt to mortals) and what am am writing is pretty brilliant. It is demanding but sets out what I want to say. It is analogous to your sense of where you want to go and setting out what it means. I think anybody who has done creative work know that process and the complete failure to understand it reveals only somebody who is wholly disconnected from the creative process. We have a common enemy even if we understand it in different terms, those who oppose civilization and a free society and want to replace it with an order they can direct. I despise these people and universities are a natural habit for them. So is Trump hating. He asks himself what is the right thing to do instead of asking what can I say that will help me get on in life and get me a house in the Hampton's. Trump already had a house in the Hampton's because his father made a fortune in property, but it was the wrong sort of fortune, in downtown New York, so Trump never felt part of the establishment, indeed he despised them. I have a vivid sense of the banality of evil but even I am shocked when mid-news report they shift from saying Trump is a madman wanting to destroy Iran to Trump is a coward for wanting negotiations.
Apr 10, 1:35 PM
You do not have to pay attention to my garden (your intentions are good but even that is a narcissistic way of putting it) I do not need your attention only that there are other people in the world doing things they think are more important than what you are doing and that only talking about what you are doing is immoral and boring. I share the same craziness as you which is why I understand what you are doing but my tolerance is not infinite.
Apr 10, 1:40 PM
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Hello
Apr 10, 1:40 PM
will be with you in 10 minutes
Apr 10, 1:40 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Nor should it be, we are all trying to be the best humans we can be.
Apr 10, 1:40 PM
ok
Apr 10, 1:40 PM
I know exactly what you mean when you say it is not about ego (you could argue that ego is everything we are against) but it is about what it is to be a good person.
Apr 10, 1:46 PM
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I did not formulate it correctly "I mean attending to to the flowers in YOUR Garden" What I wanted to say is that I hope you re doing well, that is to say You attending to Your Flowers in Your garden, so that the world would have that flower on its grave
Apr 10, 1:51 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
To be honest I am doing great
Apr 10, 1:51 PM
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Glad to hear
Apr 10, 1:51 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I am finding life worth living.
Apr 10, 1:51 PM
I have a theory about this I want to put to you.
Apr 10, 1:52 PM
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That's the spirit. I picked up LG's mantra Life is Good, but at that funeral in a poem it was said "Life is Beautiful, to die is Good" that's a more correct sentiment. We are both blessed to see the beauty despite everything else going on.
Apr 10, 1:54 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Exactly
Apr 10, 1:54 PM
You
Y
Unfortunately my Linux Laptop is not working at the moment. We could try to chat using the mobile phone
Apr 10, 1:56 PM
Or you can write here now
Apr 10, 1:56 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
"If I did not love other men because they are in the image of God I would have no reason to love them because they are horrible" But we ARE made in the image of God to use the metaphor and so life is worth living.
Apr 10, 1:57 PM
You
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I'lll have to go to get some money and a bit of shopping sometime later, we could try to chat then
Apr 10, 1:57 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Don't worry you do what you have to do.
Apr 10, 1:58 PM
You
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That's what Bulgakov is saying in the Master and Margarita
Apr 10, 1:58 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I think I had a bit of a fever last night and did not feel good when I woke up but I feel fine now so it was very minor.
Apr 10, 1:58 PM
My body does not like irregulars houses but my mind prefers it.
Apr 10, 1:59 PM
You
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I am in a manic phase at the moment
Apr 10, 1:59 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I had no idea things are so positive.
Apr 10, 1:59 PM
But I remember you were positive a few weeks back and nothing seems to have happened as a result.
Apr 10, 2:00 PM
I hope it is not simply a manic depression cycle.
Apr 10, 2:00 PM
You
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I do worry that it will be too little too late. I was right to say 5 years ago that the Globalist plan of CBDCs that they bank everything on will not materialize any time soon. But 5 years did go by. I think they may get closer to it now, they need it so that they can leigslate meaning, or suppresse it at scale
Apr 10, 2:02 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
It is intelligent to worry it shows you are connected to reality.
Apr 10, 2:02 PM
You
Y
No. But I do struggle to get back up, after all the insanity in the news
Apr 10, 2:02 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
It only becomes a problem if it leads to paralysis.
Apr 10, 2:02 PM
What you have written about your progress is very inspring
Apr 10, 2:03 PM
It has a fluency and clarity that you rarely achieve which is very encouraging.
Apr 10, 2:04 PM
I think you are more preoccupied by the fact you are 70 and time is running out but you always did leave anything to the last minute.
Apr 10, 2:04 PM
The way you live would drive most people insane and for all your faults you have always stuck me as a sane person.
Apr 10, 2:05 PM
Didn't you once go to therapy to address a "finishing problem"?
Apr 10, 2:06 PM
I thought Gien was helping you address that
Apr 10, 2:07 PM
and the American bloke
Apr 10, 2:08 PM
(Hey I have problem with names Alan Kay took me months to remember)
Apr 10, 2:08 PM
You
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I do not have a finishing problem. Both Gien and especially Michael follows closely my work progress as i reflect it on Telegram and is amazed and inspired by the progress and he himself has the domain me2we2all so hee deeply aware of the importance of finding an autonomous way for people to communicate and co-laborate
Apr 10, 2:11 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
But you did have therapy for it?
Apr 10, 2:11 PM
You
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I had a communication problem. Even whey I completed on time I did not communicate it in time. That was the problem They were showing of my demo a year later still, they never managed to move beyond without me
Apr 10, 2:12 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Somebody must have thought you did.
Apr 10, 2:12 PM
Well that is certainly true.
Apr 10, 2:12 PM
You
Y
Yes I had 12 happy session with a shrink paid by the University. I do not think he managed to address the problem, but I think I never made that kind of mistake again ever
Apr 10, 2:13 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
You are lucky to live in these times in a previous era we would be both be dead by now.
Apr 10, 2:13 PM
The problem now is people are living too long.
Apr 10, 2:14 PM
It came back to me in a way that I had obviously being suppressing (although not at the time) that I accidentally killed my mother.
Apr 10, 2:15 PM
You
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Yes Peter Dew was right about that. But I never had a "finishing problem" Looking back the past decade fully vindicated my decision not to finish something that was clearly not a fully fledged idea.
Apr 10, 2:15 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
It was for the best because the quality of her life was no longer good but that was not what was in my mind.
Apr 10, 2:16 PM
She was 90.
Apr 10, 2:16 PM
If she had lived longer her life would have been awful.
Apr 10, 2:16 PM
Well I think both things can be true at the same time. You can delay because you are engaging in a real task not pretending, in order to hit your work targets, but this can be true and going for the final run can be a problem. It requires particular qualities.
Apr 10, 2:19 PM
You
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All my hero's committed suicide. Alan Watts and Kerouac chose alcoholism. Edgar Alan Poe probably learned how to stop his heart There is a word for it that I come across but haven't learned it yet. Definitely want to explore that. Gyuszi made it to 90 but died 2 monts after his bithday
Apr 10, 2:19 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
It all depends on your state of health.
Apr 10, 2:19 PM
You
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Yes I am working on those qualities. Like interruptibility. Managing Human entanglement better. I am not a perfectionist, I have a good sense of what is vital, and do not take shortcuts which always work out to be long cuts and detours
Apr 10, 2:20 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
ok
Apr 10, 2:21 PM
You
Y
I think I'll go and get a checkup soon
Apr 10, 2:21 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
You usually know yourself in what state you body is in
Apr 10, 2:21 PM
it tells you
Apr 10, 2:21 PM
You
Y
I think the last 5 years starting with COVID has been escalating insanity and evil. Very hard to ignore
Apr 10, 2:22 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
There are 6 rules to a long healthy life I hear. 3 do's and 3 don'ts
Apr 10, 2:23 PM
DON'T Smoke Drink Alcohol Get Fat DO exercise, get enough sleep, and interact with people.
Apr 10, 2:24 PM
I think writing is enough interaction for me.
Apr 10, 2:24 PM
You
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Yes
Apr 10, 2:24 PM
and Reading!
Apr 10, 2:24 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Yes it is a form of interaction for sure.
Apr 10, 2:25 PM
It is one of the glories of writing
Apr 10, 2:25 PM
You
Y
I do not drink regularly. Once or twice a month a couple of beers or a bottle of wine every 3 months
Apr 10, 2:25 PM
Smoke half of what I used to
Apr 10, 2:26 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
That is fine
Apr 10, 2:26 PM
Good I am glad you have cut back.
Apr 10, 2:26 PM
I have put on weight recently
Apr 10, 2:26 PM
You
Y
Considering quitting seriously.
Apr 10, 2:26 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
It is not in my nature to be restrained, you could say I am greedy.
Apr 10, 2:26 PM
You
Y
I did too 4 pounds, but that is because of Breaking the Fast at Easter
Apr 10, 2:27 PM
Christmas and Easter brings 4 kg in a year, so that is bed
Apr 10, 2:27 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I think whoever invented a paNCAKE/CHESNUT CAKE SHOULD BE ELEVATED TO THE PEERAGE.
Apr 10, 2:27 PM
You
Y
I had years like that before, but did manage to loose it all. This summer Ill have to do that
Apr 10, 2:28 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
My ankles swelled yesterday, which is my body saying go on a diet please
Apr 10, 2:28 PM
You
Y
Yes
Apr 10, 2:28 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
What you are doing sounds very exciting. I am pleased.
Apr 10, 2:29 PM
Deliver please.
Apr 10, 2:29 PM
You
Y
I've got a new firing Pan which is perfect. So I can produce pancakes so the first is perfect as well does not have to be thrown away
Apr 10, 2:29 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
They are one of my favourites.
Apr 10, 2:30 PM
You
Y
I think I am on the path and it is clear what needs to be done. All the years exploration experimentation is paying dividends at scale
Apr 10, 2:30 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I think the best way to know what I am saying is to read what I wrote. It is fine not to but it is there.
Apr 10, 2:31 PM
Even I am amazed how things fit together.
Apr 10, 2:31 PM
The thing is to trust yourself.
Apr 10, 2:31 PM
You
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That is to be expected, I also find when things work that they exceed all expectations
Apr 10, 2:32 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
It is a confirmation of the claim we know more than we can say.
Apr 10, 2:32 PM
You
Y
I do not trust myself, only the Universe and live off the part that reaches back to me
Apr 10, 2:33 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
To be honest (although it will come as no surprise) I avoid Leftists like the plague. They make me ill.
Apr 10, 2:33 PM
No, all knowledge is personal
Apr 10, 2:34 PM
with me there would be nothing.
Apr 10, 2:34 PM
Meaning comes through individuals - it is personal.
Apr 10, 2:34 PM
Voegelin is very good on Leftists (he does not use that term because it is broader than that because it includes Nazi's) they are psychologically disturbed.
Apr 10, 2:35 PM
I found out that Hitler's wrote down Voegelin's name in his own personal list of people to be eliminated.
Apr 10, 2:36 PM
He only escaped because he was tipped off.
Apr 10, 2:37 PM
The age of darkness started in 1914
Apr 10, 2:37 PM
it includes our parents generation and those before them.
Apr 10, 2:37 PM
All this madness is just more of the same.
Apr 10, 2:38 PM
I read the comments on Trump and people are mentally ill for sure
Apr 10, 2:38 PM
It reminds me of the reaction to Margaret Thatcher
Apr 10, 2:39 PM
Insane
Apr 10, 2:39 PM
You
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high level interrupt
Apr 10, 2:39 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
ok
Apr 10, 2:39 PM
You
Y
"all knowledge is personal" knowing learning yes. I do not have a high regard for my self. I know it is only in a small part about me. Yes attention is sacred, and it has to be paid.
Apr 10, 2:47 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
We will never agree on this.
Apr 10, 2:47 PM
You
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Yes as the individual attends to the Other, the world.
Apr 10, 2:48 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
You are not a Buddhist thank God
Apr 10, 2:48 PM
I find them irritating
Apr 10, 2:48 PM
but I am a Westerner
Apr 10, 2:49 PM
Asia repels me
Apr 10, 2:49 PM
West is best
Apr 10, 2:50 PM
You
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I think Polanyi talked about Personal Knowledge, yet he knew full well and argued well to the position that there is no such thing as knowledge, only Personal Knowing or lack of it. I sudder every time in integration when people use the word knowledge, That one is by definition impersonal
Apr 10, 2:51 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Yes
Apr 10, 2:51 PM
As Popper put it knowing without persons
Apr 10, 2:52 PM
that is the delusion
Apr 10, 2:52 PM
But I view Polanyi as moderating Western civilization
Apr 10, 2:53 PM
not repudiating it
Apr 10, 2:53 PM
Taoism is a repudiuation
Apr 10, 2:53 PM
Throwing the baby out with the bath water
Apr 10, 2:53 PM
Polanyi was not a Taoist but he would have loved what you are doing
Apr 10, 2:54 PM
I think you should believe him when he said he was a Christian but he rightly refused to talk about it because he was very unorthodox.
Apr 10, 2:55 PM
You
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People Chose what they believe. I am sure that my Idea of the TAO is already a protosynthesis of the best of the East and the West.
Apr 10, 2:55 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Well you know my opinion
Apr 10, 2:56 PM
You
Y
When you say West is Best, it is the Hubris that wpeaks and it will be its downfall
Apr 10, 2:56 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
People talking about things they nothing about
Apr 10, 2:56 PM
You can only be a Taoist if you are living in Imperial China
Apr 10, 2:57 PM
You
Y
Yet there is so much in the West that is true value, so our task is to save that
Apr 10, 2:57 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
and speak Chinese
Apr 10, 2:57 PM
Yes I let you off because you say that ;-)
Apr 10, 2:57 PM
But you have may have noticed that our entire culture is anti-Western and going "Zen" is part of that
Apr 10, 2:58 PM
You
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No Ideas are real. concrete and alive and you can be exposed and engage with them. They shape 1 so that 1 can shape back
Apr 10, 2:58 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
No, experience is what is real
Apr 10, 2:58 PM
and all experience is interpreted
Apr 10, 2:59 PM
You
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You are a crypto Phenomenologist then. There is an apt osvath about that. I call Real what I know about it. I call Real that I cannot know
Apr 10, 3:00 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I am always telling you how Communist your assumptions are. much to your annoyance
Apr 10, 3:00 PM
because that was your background
Apr 10, 3:00 PM
No Phenomenology has two defects
Apr 10, 3:01 PM
it is all about ideas and it is subjective
Apr 10, 3:01 PM
Experience is contact with reality
Apr 10, 3:01 PM
You
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I lean towards agnosticism, not the desructive kind but the creative one that believes in the mind and its continual expansion and while the surface of all understanding forever expands as it gets i contact with more and more that we do not (yet( know, the known unknown you know
Apr 10, 3:02 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Fair enough
Apr 10, 3:02 PM
You are actually a heuristic philosopher corrupted by Hegelianism
Apr 10, 3:03 PM
You
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The very concept of Phenomenology is anchored in the same conviction, Experience is always personal situated and cannot be shared fully, yet it is in contact with what is real and our only source of contact with IT
Apr 10, 3:04 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I am talking about Phenomenology as it is understood in the German tradition, a BAD tradition
Apr 10, 3:04 PM
You
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Actually phenomenology for me is precisely what you say, pay attention and get in touch with the real
Apr 10, 3:05 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
in love with system building
Apr 10, 3:05 PM
I know, what you are in reality is better than your justification for it
Apr 10, 3:05 PM
no Hungarian can be a Hegelian
Apr 10, 3:06 PM
You
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It is inescapable that we go meta-reflective, and yes there is a system to what is going on, we can glean some insight about it
Apr 10, 3:06 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
you have to be German
Apr 10, 3:06 PM
I keep telling you that you are better than Hegel
Apr 10, 3:06 PM
You
Y
forget about Hegel
Apr 10, 3:06 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Dating back to King Matthias Hungary has been a humanist civilization
Apr 10, 3:07 PM
It is not a myth, he promoted humanism in Eastern Europe
Apr 10, 3:08 PM
You
Y
I learned that the father of Antrhrosophy my hero was Hungarian. He attended his first chooling in Hungary (part of the empire( and so was rosenkrantz
Apr 10, 3:08 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
for example in Poland
Apr 10, 3:08 PM
Rosenkranz?
Apr 10, 3:08 PM
You
Y
So there is a dep affinity at the spiritual level with hermeticism in the Hungrian tradition. Some believe that Hungarians have a spiritual calling per se
Apr 10, 3:08 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
All I know about is Rosenzweig
Apr 10, 3:08 PM
You
Y
yes
Apr 10, 3:08 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Unfortunately you are right about that
Apr 10, 3:09 PM
Hermeticism WAS a Renaissance tradition.
Apr 10, 3:09 PM
You
Y
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosicrucianism
Apr 10, 3:09 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Marsilio Ficino in Florence
Apr 10, 3:09 PM
THAT Is your religion
Apr 10, 3:10 PM
You
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So I learned that my affinity towards Hermeticism is a deep Hungarian spiritual trait
Apr 10, 3:10 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
True
Apr 10, 3:10 PM
I can hardly dispute that
Apr 10, 3:10 PM
but Hungarians never aspired to be Dr Faustus
Apr 10, 3:11 PM
that is the difference.
Apr 10, 3:11 PM
The Germans did.
Apr 10, 3:11 PM
You
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I learned from JA not to peek to much into the mysteries, so I do not study thee things, the more you study spritiyual texts the less chance for yu to actually partake in it
Apr 10, 3:12 PM
Neither do I
Apr 10, 3:12 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Just follow your instinct that is enough.
Apr 10, 3:12 PM
You
Y
Indeed the connection to the divine as my mother taught me
Apr 10, 3:13 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
You flirt with it but are too Hungarian to go threre
Apr 10, 3:13 PM
Take that as a compliment
Apr 10, 3:13 PM
I find Hungarians and Poles (and even Russians in some moods) much more congenial than Germans
Apr 10, 3:14 PM
they start from the human
Apr 10, 3:14 PM
not the system
Apr 10, 3:15 PM
as do you
Apr 10, 3:15 PM
I bet Hungarians interpreted Newton differently from the French
Apr 10, 3:16 PM
I bet they did not see him as a total explanation for everything
Apr 10, 3:16 PM
like Voltaire did
Apr 10, 3:16 PM
You
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Of course not
Apr 10, 3:17 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Hungarians are maniacs of course and God intoxicated but they do not see themselves as God. I must read that Madocs book you got me
Apr 10, 3:18 PM
Mardoch?
Apr 10, 3:19 PM
I am sure that will contain a Hungarian perspective.
Apr 10, 3:19 PM
It is a pity Matyi does not study him instead of Blake.
Apr 10, 3:19 PM
You
Y
Madach?
Apr 10, 3:20 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I will get the book
Apr 10, 3:20 PM
You
Y
I think Blake is great choice
Apr 10, 3:20 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
The Tragedy of Man
Apr 10, 3:20 PM
Madach
Apr 10, 3:20 PM
You
Y
Yes Madach
Apr 10, 3:21 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Everybody knows Blake but people don't know Hungarian
Apr 10, 3:21 PM
He should focus on Hungarian poets
Apr 10, 3:21 PM
because he is bilingual
Apr 10, 3:22 PM
He is put off by the chauvinism probably
Apr 10, 3:23 PM
His father sounding off about Hungarian poetry
Apr 10, 3:23 PM
If it enough to put anybody off
Apr 10, 3:23 PM
All the English poets have been thoroughly explored
Apr 10, 3:24 PM
You
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Not from a Hungarian Perspective.I know Madach. He does not have the depth. Actually I feel very strongly why Blake matter from a hungarian poeitic sensibility. In fact Matyi has not been put off. He knows more hungarian Poetry than I do. I sensed all that from his written work.
Apr 10, 3:26 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Oh wonderful
Apr 10, 3:26 PM
Yes Blake certainly fits in with something in the Hungarian character it is NO ACCIDENT as the Marxists used to say the recent Blake exhibition was in Budapest
Apr 10, 3:27 PM
but you know more about that than I do
Apr 10, 3:28 PM
I have a feeling some famous Hungarian wrote about Blake
Apr 10, 3:29 PM
You
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I did not tell you. The exhibition was packed. Three rows of people in front of the best things. We had to que up for nearly half an hour to get the ticket and get in
Apr 10, 3:30 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Really!
Apr 10, 3:30 PM
You
Y
Yes!
Apr 10, 3:30 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Great sign for Hungary.
Apr 10, 3:30 PM
You
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It was a real seance at scale
Apr 10, 3:30 PM
I neve seen such a crowd in and exhibition ever! we spent 3 hours there
Apr 10, 3:31 PM
Should have gone back for more
Apr 10, 3:31 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
You have to laugh, Hungary is now viewed as one of the mentally healthiest countries in the world.
Apr 10, 3:31 PM
Whenever it is mentioned it is with praise.
Apr 10, 3:31 PM
Of course I move in very conservative circles.
Apr 10, 3:31 PM
You
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Hungarians are on a spiritual mission according to a woman who sounds totally crazed but no to me. She talked about rudolf Steiner. All I can say I listened to hundreds of hours of his lectures. And his work the Scince of Freedom is just soooo rich
Apr 10, 3:33 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
How things change. Esterhazy in Tinker,Tailor, Solider, Spy is viewed as a clever opportunist. A man essentially with no principles.
Apr 10, 3:33 PM
No, I do not think it is crazy at all.
Apr 10, 3:34 PM
You
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https://rsarchive.org/Books/GA004/English/RSP1964/GA004_index.html
Apr 10, 3:34 PM
must be a compulsory reading for you
Apr 10, 3:34 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Anglo-Saxon culture is in a state of total decadence.
Apr 10, 3:34 PM
You
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It is not science of Freedom, but it makes the claim that all philosophy is about inquiry into freedom. That;s exactly what you do for sure
Apr 10, 3:35 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Yes
Apr 10, 3:35 PM
You
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I really have to go and get stuff wil check back later
Apr 10, 3:36 PM
joy to chat with you thank
Apr 10, 3:36 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I go now as well
Apr 10, 3:36 PM
You
Y
sure
Apr 10, 3:36 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Happy shopping!
Apr 10, 3:36 PM
You
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I'll dig out a copy of that book that has been annotated the way I would like to treat your writings
Apr 10, 3:37 PM
thank you
Apr 10, 3:37 PM
Thinking as an Organ of Perception: Similar to Goethe's scientific approach, Steiner suggests thinking is an organ that perceives spiritual reality, much like the eye perceives light, thus breaking through conventional limits of knowledge.
Apr 10, 3:40 PM
That's exactly how I experience it
Apr 10, 3:40 PM
I call it OutTuition
Apr 10, 3:41 PM
I told Matyi about a specific point that is a good indication why Arany's translation of Hamlet is better then in the english
Apr 10, 9:28 PM
Then Matyi told me that I had told him the reason before
Apr 10, 9:28 PM
Did I ever tell you? I doubt.
Apr 10, 9:29 PM
The passage with the readiness is all is demonstrable better. I did not manage to make sense of it in the original. In the translation it is so much clearer
Apr 10, 9:30 PM
I can search for key words in Hunarian poetry. Open it in one of my browser profile whee /english is set as the main language. Get a rough translation into English and use Hypothesis annotation to make corrections
Apr 10, 9:51 PM
https://bafybeidtowo3keqtviqeqnp627v6e35pxvp4iru6met5mkbbsglmndkph4.ipfs.dweb.link/?filename=%5BATTILA%20J%C3%93ZSEF%5D%20YOU%20KNOW%20THERE%20IS%20NO%20FORGIVENESS%20(10_04_2026%2020%EF%BC%9A58%EF%BC%9A27).html
Apr 10, 9:51 PM
I really need to go to bed now. But it is exciting that I can save these pages permanently and annotate them and eventually interconnect them to weave a HyperMap of intertwingled ideas
Apr 10, 9:52 PM
Hello.I hope u r keeping well. I'll be on this computer from 7 your time you can ping me anytime. I hope we can connect tomorrow.
Thu 8:03 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I am here
Thu 8:19 PM
I am in a curious state of serenity.
Thu 8:20 PM
You
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serenity is an appropriate reaction.
Thu 8:32 PM
Hope to talk tomorrow anytime between 7 am and noon your time. I am turning off my computer soon.
Thu 8:34 PM
off
Thu 8:34 PM
Looking forward to talk
Thu 8:35 PM
breaking news Zsuzsa leaves an hour later than usual tomorrow morning
Thu 8:51 PM
Thinking about serenity. If you would rather postpone talking I would understand italics turn on by mistake. I am typing on a keyboard of this machine that is hanging down from a set of boxes so I can use it as a second screen.This is a powerful laptop but is no longer luggable. It has onlyu one usb 3 and that is also the power lead. It is a bad flimsy design, repair cannot be guaranteed. So I access this one from my other laptop via a RustDesk
Thu 9:11 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
No it is good to talk.
Thu 9:28 PM
Friday, Apr 17
You
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Good morning. R u around. I need 15 minutes to get operational
Fri 8:29 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I am here
Fri 8:33 AM
You
Y
trying to c conncect
Fri 8:42 AM
https://bafybeihnx2av7bqvo4brlsc65lt2qc7nmj5mleg7fj6g7dwmurjeqm7hte.ipfs.dweb.link/peersuite/space/?p=/%E2%99%96/indy/0/peersuite/space/&r=onboard&n=cpg
Fri 8:46 AM
join with the link
Fri 8:46 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I am there
Fri 8:47 AM
You
Y
sorry my machine got into a fit
Fri 10:55 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
ok
Fri 10:55 AM
Maybe it was all the shouting
Fri 10:55 AM
You
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try to join again
Fri 10:59 AM
with that link
Fri 10:59 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
ok
Fri 10:59 AM
You
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I think it did not like not to be plugged in
Fri 11:00 AM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I can hear you
Fri 11:01 AM
You
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please reload
Fri 11:26 AM
Saturday, Apr 18
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
ok
Fri 11:26 AM
John Vervaeke
Fri 12:14 PM
You
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looks like I disabled the touchpad and had to plug the machine in
Fri 12:16 PM
try to connect again
Fri 12:16 PM
refresjh please
Fri 12:16 PM
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
ok
Fri 12:16 PM
You
Y
I just checked
Sat 11:13 PM
Wholeness and the implicate order, the title of his book spoke to me. I bought it on the spot.
Sat 11:14 PM
There is the Hassidic connection and hungarian roots
Sat 11:15 PM
and culture
Sat 11:15 PM
I like the claim "Eventually everything connects" All is One of course
Sat 11:16 PM
https://youtu.be/bxI1qmuT21U?si=OhEVz7Pd3D8FADFt
Sat 11:22 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Implicate_and_explicate_order
Sat 11:31 PM
I think the deterministic reading that the video suggest is a total misunderstanding of what the theory implies.
Sat 11:32 PM
Quite the opposite. The theory gives a clear and undeniable account of spiritual life.
Sat 11:33 PM
Of course once one understands emergent properties that determinism at the physical level determines the flow not what forms individual and all consciousness flows i
Sat 11:34 PM
Sunday, Apr 19
CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
I was the one who told you Bohm's father was Hungarian. Rudolf Steiner's family are Austrian not Hungarian.
Sun 8:25 AM
It is possibility which is explored
Sun 8:49 AM
The big sin is to think you can understand it
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You can only experience it
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Maybe it is possible to understand it retroactively but even this is not correct
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What, say, the Middle Ages, was about is still being discovered
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CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Just found out that the two volume 1,500 page The Matter with Things by Iain Mc Gilchrist published a few years ago and retailing at £50 has sold over 100,000 copies. His earlier The Mind and His Emissary has sold over 150,000 copies.
Yesterday 9:16 AM
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Yesterday 10:00 AM
I never claimed or thought that I understand it. but one can continually learn about it. It is all symmathesy mutual learning. As a card carrying Taoist and whatever else, I feel really comfortable with the unknown, it is a continual exploratio through experience. I do claim however that understanding is about making sense and and see meaning quality in experience. ascending to new viewpoints from where more of it make sense especially if you allow yourself to appreciate the real depth cognitive dissonance, when you learn to appreciate how fickle and misguided your attempt at making sense can be. Ready for the net gestalt switch
Yesterday 10:07 AM
However at a personal level you can understand your sitatedness and choices that you make what to believe. Understanding is, as Polanyi so well put it, is a fiduciary act, a choice of your soul.
Yesterday 10:08 AM
There are deep regulative ideas, and they are self sustaining. They reflet choices. and deeply intertwingled idea complexes that hold together through mutual arising. You can attain a sense of it being a Whole with its implicate order, as in a holon arising in a see of other holons that together like art let you eclipse reality as in a deep sense of flint IT
Yesterday 10:11 AM
I am doing some experiments to provid an alternative to Google Chat. Let e kno if when you have some time for some incomplete frustrating experiments
Yesterday 10:12 AM
Allternaivelly wait until friday
Yesterday 10:12 AM
Suddenly it got old. I am shivering. Turning the heating on
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"I was the one who told you Bohm's father was Hungarian. " I am sure you did but it did not register with me at the time. I did not recognize at the time that the reason why the title of his book "wholeness and implicate order" is deep characteristics of the Hungarian soul. Jozsef attila was clear about this, transmitted that feeling but it took me a long long time to be self-aware of that all
Yesterday 10:20 AM
https://hyp.is/fabrDj1cEfGVhCfRt12wEQ/rsarchive.org/Books/GA028/English/APC1928/GA028_c01.html
Yesterday 10:39 AM
Next to the assistant teacher, the person whom I loved most among those who had to do with the direction of the school was the priest. He came regularly twice a week to give instruction in religion and often besides for inspection of the school. The image of the man was deeply impressed upon my mind, and he has come back into my memory again and again throughout my life. Among the persons whom I came to know up to my tenth or eleventh year, he was by far the most significant. He was a vigorous Hungarian patriot. He took active part in the process of Magyarizing the Hungarian territory which was then going forward. From this point of view he wrote articles in the Hungarian language, which I thus learned through the fact that the assistant teacher had to make clear copies of these and he always discussed their contents with me in spite of my youthfulness. But the priest was also an energetic worker for the Church. This once impressed itself deeply upon my mind through one of his sermons.from Steiners incomplete autobiography
Yesterday 10:39 AM
Among the persons whom I came to know up to my tenth or eleventh year, he was by far the most significant. He was a vigorous Hungarian patriot. He took active part in the process of Magyarizing the Hungarian territory which was then going forward. From this point of view he wrote articles in the Hungarian language, which I thus learned through the fact that the assistant teacher had to make clear copies of these and he always discussed their contents with me in spite of my youthfulness.
Yesterday 10:40 AM
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CHRISTOPHER PETER Goodman
Mutual arising is too Hegelian for me, but not offensively so, it is obviously true to some extent, but it is far too neat. It has taken me a long time to work out what I am exploring. It arises from my life experience and the time you live in and particular interests and personal history and writers who I am drawn at particular phases that I may outgrow and personal influences and sheer originality. That whole Lakatos thing of intellectual reconstruction is far too mechanical to the point of myth making. It has taken me at least 40 years of thinking to work out what the Left is all about (I have never explained it to you because you are not interested and you have your own obsessions) and it is not about following or even responding to a book it is more like watching how Leftists behave and getting flashes of insight into why they say what they do and these insights are unpredictable but gradually accumulate and clarify what is going on. Any concept of method is an overclaim in my eyes, which is why I say you are better than Hegel because you are much more aware of the complexity, although my impression is you hanker after something more Hegelian than I am comfortable with. Polanyi gives a much more accurate account of the process of exploration, he saw it to some extent as a feedback loop which is not a million miles away from mutual arising, facilitated by the power of articulation, but which cannot be wholly described and relies on disparate sources. It is the creation of a work of art so to speak, a way of making sense of things that is of course partial and not complete. I am still leaning about the Leftist mentality although I suspect to a far greater degree than you I view it with utter contempt on moral grounds and think there is a good chance it will completely destroy our civilization if it has not already done so. Any really deep question like what is real is a continuous object of inquiry, the more defined it is the easier it is to solve it, and I suspect 42 has more attraction to you than it does to me because I am not mathematically minded. At our time in Leeds there was an ENTS [Entertainment] Manager called Andy Kershaw who from his office in the Student Union because relatively famous in that world (sleeping with all the girls he could and generally making a mess of his personal life as a result) and I notice he has just died. They say you are officially old (as opposed to Middle Aged) when you are 69. It used to be earlier of course, even a few years ago it was 63 I believe. It is noticeable how many people (for example Iain McGilchrist) are peaking in their 70's these days but I am talking about people who are semi-detached from any profession. Jonathon Sumption for example finished his masterpiece a 5 volume history of the Hundred Years War aged 75 but he kept his his day job he earned a fortune in the law and he lives in a castle in France.
Yesterday 8:00 PM
Taoism has never had any appeal to me, not in the slightest. I am interested in the human person.
Yesterday 8:01 PM
Trying to make sense of thing is the core, yes.
Yesterday 8:02 PM
What people call religion is natural to us because we look for meaning over and above the material and biological and social - this what what the three people I am writing about totally get. Jesus explained it this "Man lives on more than bread alone"
Yesterday 8:05 PM
In my book I deliberately emphasised the personal in Polanyi because it would be all to easy to emphasize the tacit instead, but the personal is his primary insight.
Yesterday 8:07 PM
Your religion was never my religion. The impact of Christianity has been enormous.
Yesterday 8:08 PM
"wholeness and implicate order" is deep characteristics of the Hungarian soul. It is broader than that I think, there is a whole Central European tradition of mysticism which is not Christian. Polanyi is very much affected by it but he understands it from a Christian perspective.
Yesterday 8:11 PM
Interesting about Rudolf Steiner's Hungarian influences. I don't think that is unusual. I can give English examples of Hungarians who settled in England who were profoundly influential. They were often seen as eccentric but Hungarians are easy to love from an English perspective. I think it is because they value autonomy and are not cynical.
Yesterday 8:16 PM
I told you that Bernard Williams (a man I despise) to his credit ensured that Aurel Kolnai was given a job at London University so he could keep body and soul together just because he was Hungarian. He is another Christian Hungarian Jew. Most Hungarians are seen as Far Right (in the good sense of the word - the Nazi Party were nationalist Leftists they were the absolute opposite of conservatives that particular Stalinist lie has served then well) but Camila Paglia says there were Hungarian Marxists in the USA but they are the exception rather than the rule having a certain mania about them like Napata in The Magic Mountain that taken from life. A.J.NOCK recounts a conversation he had with a Hungarian Jew in San Francisco c1900 in which he asked him what he will do after he has destroyed the existing society and his persecutors and he said we shall then take revenge and become the persecutors, but this seems more Jewish than Hungarian. I think Lukacs for example had a religious sensibility that was picked up by Thomas Mann. He was not a Stalinist in this sense.
Yesterday 8:29 PM
I read quite a bit about the Communists in Hungary and they come over as a very opportunistic bunch who were basically interested in filling their boots. The Galileo Society types were ideologues like the Fabians but the actual Communists seem like careerists to me of a very local type. Polanyi's brother Karl was a Christian Anglophile was not a careerist but he got out of Hungary as soon as he could but his wife was a ghastly fanatic with a Slavic surname.
Yesterday 8:39 PM
Alas it is a type that settled in England. Ed Miliband is a good example. There are a whole bunch of Jewish Leftist fanatics but they are Polish rather than Hungarian where the anti-Semiticism was much stronger because of the Catholicism.
Yesterday 8:41 PM
Supplying a one sided diet of examples is the entire strategy of Search Engines. Put in Donald Trump and get 999 negative reports and one positive. A State education tells you about Leftism and never gives you a single example of why it does not work.
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https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/2/pad/edit/j2cbd4SJgN3NzjX6WFKmbkbG/
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That link is an experiment in progress to start moving conversations into our owned spaces
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